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July 23rd, 2012, 6:45 pm
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I'll take it.

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Solid trade. While Sanchez is another RHP he is an upgrade to Porcello, if only slightly. He has a nearly 40 more Ks than Porcello on the year and has pitched a handful of more innings on the year. Infante is a huge upgrade at 2B with a small amount of pop in his bat.

Nothing mind blowing but they did improve immediately with this trade.


July 23rd, 2012, 7:24 pm
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I think we got screwed.


July 23rd, 2012, 7:29 pm
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One other thing to note is we also swapped compensation picks with the Marlins we gave them a 2nd rounder and we received a 1st round pick in next years draft.


July 23rd, 2012, 7:43 pm
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the one thing that is concerning is that sanchez isnt signed for 2013, he s essentially a two month rental. hopefully he can win a playoff game. infante becomes a capable answer at 2b. if we dont make it to the world series and this trade at that point is turner/brantly/flynn for infante and a somewhat higher pick than it wont be worth it


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IF Sanchez doesn't resign, it will be a bad trade. That being said, Infante hit out of this world last season and is hitting very well this season. Our 2 baggers are hitting what, .200 with like 2 HRs and 20 RBIs or something pathetic? Infante pushes Ramon back to his utility position and he can spell Peralta at SS late in games AND we have an upgrade at 2B. Not only that, but it pushes Raburn to the OF where he's much better. He's been surprisingly good in the OF this year. Additionally, it means, Boesch, Raburn, Dirks, and Young have to compete for an OF spot...I smell trades.

Sanchez is a good pitcher. This is a guy who had well over a 3:1 K/BB ratio last season and somehow had a losing record with an ERA under 3.00. Yes, Miami sucks. This is a young pitcher with very little wear on him. Sure, he just turned 28, but IF the Tigers resign him (I cannot imagine they wouldn't), he'll be a damn good pitcher for years to come. He has had should surgery and spent some time on the 60-D as a result of shoulder issues leading up to the surgery, so we'll see if hes fully healed....he looks to be. My biggest fear is his career 5+ ERA against the AL. He seems to dominate the scrubs and struggle against the good teams. Lucky for us, our division sucks.

Smyly needs some more seasoning in the minors. Turner was a good talent, but so was Andrew Miller, and he's a reliever for Boston now.

I'm not upset about Brantley, he was blocked by Avila. He wasn't going to be the starting C on this team in the next 5 years and was almost guaranteed to be trade bait at some point. Good hitting C's are like gold. Avila is pretty solid on both sides of the ball.

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Post Re: Call it the Anibal Sanchez and Omar Infante thread
wjb21ndtown wrote:
I think we got screwed.


Leave it to you to be pissed about a move.

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Anibal Sanchez should help the Tigers, but they paid a steep price.



While much of the focus today is on the Ichiro Suzuki trade (and my thoughts on that are at the bottom of this piece), a much more significant deal was reportedly made between the Detroit Tigers and Miami Marlins.



The Tigers clearly make themselves better in a tight AL Central race this year with the acquisitions of Anibal Sanchez and Omar Infante, but the Marlins did well to obtain one top-30 prospect (Jacob Turner) and a couple of other solid prospects in exchange for an impending free agent pitcher and a 30-year-old hitter who would probably be a utility player on most teams.





Sanchez had significant shoulder problems earlier in his career, but has been healthy since the start of 2010 and has made himself into an above-average starter thanks to a plus changeup with good deception and at times some late tumble. His fastball is just average, but he locates it well enough to stay ahead in the count and avoid free passes, although it's fairly flat and might make him homer-prone in the wrong ballpark.



With Sanchez and a healthy Doug Fister back in the mix, the Tigers have five solid starters -- Drew Smyly, now injured, was coming back to earth when he got hurt anyway -- and no depth if their rotation should sustain another injury. Infante isn't anything special with the bat or glove, but given what he's replacing, Tigers fans might mistake him for Rogers Hornsby. Detroit's second basemen have hit a combined .201/.286/.276 this season, so while Infante isn't likely to improve his performance when moving to the better league, he'll be an improvement over anything the Tigers have in-house at second base. The two additions make the Tigers two to three wins better for the rest of this season, plus some value from Infante in 2013 as well.



Turner was consistently up to 97 mph with his fastball in high school, touching 99, but is more 90-94 now. He works with a two-seamer that has some tailing life and generates a few more ground balls than his four-seamer does, but not enough to overcome the fact that he doesn't miss bats like he should.



He has a full starter's repertoire, with a power curveball at 77-82 that used to be sharper, a cutter at 84-86 that probably needs to be closer to his fastball in velocity, and a changeup with pretty good action at 86-87. As much as I understand the idea of making starting pitchers more efficient, I don't get the idea of taking a power pitcher like Turner and turning him into a finesse/ground ball guy; I think he's lost a little arm speed, but that could also be a function of trying to 'pitch' too much instead of just letting it go. He alone makes the deal worthwhile for the Marlins, as he's got enough stuff as is to end up a third or fourth starter but isn't far removed from a time when he looked like a possible star. It's quite possible he was just rushed to the majors and hasn't had time to make the necessary adjustments.



The other prospects headed to Miami are catcher Rob Brantly and lefty Brian Flynn. Brantly, who has struggled a bit since a promotion to Triple-A, is a contact-oriented hitter without much patience and a hook-oriented swing; he has an above-average arm but his receiving has always been a problem, most likely because he doesn't have the hands for it. Flynn, who was just promoted to Double-A, has good stuff but has trouble repeating his delivery, right down to his arm slot, and probably ends up a reliever, although his delivery seems to get worse when he's working from the stretch. The deal largely boils down to Turner, but as I said, I think he's a great pickup in exchange for two months of Sanchez and a season-plus of Infante.



One point of interest in this trade is that, for the first time in MLB history, we have seen draft picks traded, as the two teams exchanged their "competitive balance lottery" picks, with the Tigers sending their pick after to the second round to the Marlins for their pick after the first round. (We'll ignore, for the moment, the absurdity of the Tigers receiving a pick in that process while the Rays received none.) Let's hope teams' interest in using these picks as trade commodities spurs changes in the next CBA to allow teams to trade other draft picks as well


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Post Re: Call it the Anibal Sanchez and Omar Infante thread
What this really tells me is the Raburn experiment it just about done here in Detroit. Once Dirks comes back (he playing here in Toledo right now) Raburn will be given his walking papers.


July 24th, 2012, 7:49 am
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