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wasn't Bentley the Midget....er REALLY short guy? like 5' 8" or am i mixing him up with one of the other 2 CB's we drafted?


Bently is short, I believe he is listed around 5'9" or 5'10". We only drafted one other CB, Greenwood, who has good height for a CB around 6'1" or 6'2".



Ok Bentley is who I thought it was. everything I read about the kid basically screamed he would have been first round tallent had he been built like an actual football player. Hopefully he has a little Barry in him and his height doesn't afflict him too often. Everything (and I mean EVRYTHING) said he can flat out play.


I think he'll take the #2 spot by mid-season next year. All he needs to be is pretty good, and Alphonso can be a good nickel corner on our defense while Lacey, Greenwood, Jonte Green, and Drew Coleman are all used for depth and dime packages.

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While you guys sit there and point the finger at the backs and think they must be upgraded to produce a run game, the rest of us will point at the offensive line with the understanding that the changes need to take place there to improve the running game.



Not sure if that YoU Guys includes me, but never once did I state we need an RB OVER an OL. I have stood by stating that we needed both.

And now we are weeks away from starting a season with kevin Smith and Keiland Williams as our #1 and #2 backs. Our OL is not in NEARLY that bad of a situation... so it looks like "you guys" might have been right.

That said, you know I have been on the Draft OL Bandwaggon for 2 years now, was just pointing out that WJB and a few others including me all wondered at us not going after Bush or a Comprable back earlier in the offseason, and the FO decided to bet on people getting healthy, and now it appears that bet is 50/50 at best. (pun intended)

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Pablo wrote:
regularjoe12 wrote:
wasn't Bentley the Midget....er REALLY short guy? like 5' 8" or am i mixing him up with one of the other 2 CB's we drafted?


Bently is short, I believe he is listed around 5'9" or 5'10". We only drafted one other CB, Greenwood, who has good height for a CB around 6'1" or 6'2".


Ummmm....isn't Jonte Green a cornerback? Didn't we draft him too? New Mexico State kid in the sixth round, listed at 6 foot and 185 lbs? Could have sworn we drafted him.... :-k

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regularjoe12 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
regularjoe12 wrote:
wasn't Bentley the Midget....er REALLY short guy? like 5' 8" or am i mixing him up with one of the other 2 CB's we drafted?


Bently is short, I believe he is listed around 5'9" or 5'10". We only drafted one other CB, Greenwood, who has good height for a CB around 6'1" or 6'2".



Ok Bentley is who I thought it was. everything I read about the kid basically screamed he would have been first round tallent had he been built like an actual football player. Hopefully he has a little Barry in him and his height doesn't afflict him too often. Everything (and I mean EVRYTHING) said he can flat out play.


I think he'll take the #2 spot by mid-season next year. All he needs to be is pretty good, and Alphonso can be a good nickel corner on our defense while Lacey, Greenwood, Jonte Green, and Drew Coleman are all used for depth and dime packages.


Not sure how much this matters, but Bentley has been taking first team snaps the past couple of days and apparently is getting raved about by teammates and is improving every day. Who knows, he might get a shot Day 1 depending how his preseason goes.

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Shotty wrote:
regularjoe12 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
regularjoe12 wrote:
wasn't Bentley the Midget....er REALLY short guy? like 5' 8" or am i mixing him up with one of the other 2 CB's we drafted?


Bently is short, I believe he is listed around 5'9" or 5'10". We only drafted one other CB, Greenwood, who has good height for a CB around 6'1" or 6'2".



Ok Bentley is who I thought it was. everything I read about the kid basically screamed he would have been first round tallent had he been built like an actual football player. Hopefully he has a little Barry in him and his height doesn't afflict him too often. Everything (and I mean EVRYTHING) said he can flat out play.


I think he'll take the #2 spot by mid-season next year. All he needs to be is pretty good, and Alphonso can be a good nickel corner on our defense while Lacey, Greenwood, Jonte Green, and Drew Coleman are all used for depth and dime packages.


Not sure how much this matters, but Bentley has been taking first team snaps the past couple of days and apparently is getting raved about by teammates and is improving every day. Who knows, he might get a shot Day 1 depending how his preseason goes.


It wouldn't surprise me if he started 16 games next year if he is really improving every day, which I do believe. Alphonso Smith and Jacob Lacey aren't exactly big competition, so he is capable of it if he gets better and better. I think they should start him in every preseason game so he gets some experience and so they know for sure what he's all about.

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Not sure how much this matters, but Bentley has been taking first team snaps the past couple of days and apparently is getting raved about by teammates and is improving every day. Who knows, he might get a shot Day 1 depending how his preseason goes.


It wouldn't surprise me if he started 16 games next year if he is really improving every day, which I do believe. Alphonso Smith and Jacob Lacey aren't exactly big competition, so he is capable of it if he gets better and better. I think they should start him in every preseason game so he gets some experience and so they know for sure what he's all about.


Not meaning to whizz in anyones Cheerios, but the same was said of numerous rookie players in the past, both at the CB position and otherwise. And some of those players failed to impress...even in the current administration.

Example: Amari Spievey. He got glowing reviews at the initial portion of training camp his rookie year, playing at corner. Once they got into pre-season games, he started his downward spiral at the position.

Derrick Williams is another one. He was getting some good reviews in early parts of camp, but the kid was useless.

I am hoping that Bentley and Greenwood can show that they were steals in their respective rounds (I hope that for all our picks). But I'll reserve judgement until I can watch them in the pre-season games the next few weeks and see how they do against decent players in game situations. Not just whether they make plays, but how they go about it.

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Shotty wrote:
kdsberman wrote:
Not sure how much this matters, but Bentley has been taking first team snaps the past couple of days and apparently is getting raved about by teammates and is improving every day. Who knows, he might get a shot Day 1 depending how his preseason goes.


It wouldn't surprise me if he started 16 games next year if he is really improving every day, which I do believe. Alphonso Smith and Jacob Lacey aren't exactly big competition, so he is capable of it if he gets better and better. I think they should start him in every preseason game so he gets some experience and so they know for sure what he's all about.


Not meaning to whizz in anyones Cheerios, but the same was said of numerous rookie players in the past, both at the CB position and otherwise. And some of those players failed to impress...even in the current administration.

Example: Amari Spievey. He got glowing reviews at the initial portion of training camp his rookie year, playing at corner. Once they got into pre-season games, he started his downward spiral at the position.

Derrick Williams is another one. He was getting some good reviews in early parts of camp, but the kid was useless.

I am hoping that Bentley and Greenwood can show that they were steals in their respective rounds (I hope that for all our picks). But I'll reserve judgement until I can watch them in the pre-season games the next few weeks and see how they do against decent players in game situations. Not just whether they make plays, but how they go about it.


I agree with your general point, but Spievey was injured for the bulk of his first training camp, and so he didn't get much playing time/rave reviews. He was getting good feedback in camp last year though.

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m2karateman wrote:
Shotty wrote:
kdsberman wrote:
Not sure how much this matters, but Bentley has been taking first team snaps the past couple of days and apparently is getting raved about by teammates and is improving every day. Who knows, he might get a shot Day 1 depending how his preseason goes.


It wouldn't surprise me if he started 16 games next year if he is really improving every day, which I do believe. Alphonso Smith and Jacob Lacey aren't exactly big competition, so he is capable of it if he gets better and better. I think they should start him in every preseason game so he gets some experience and so they know for sure what he's all about.


Not meaning to whizz in anyones Cheerios, but the same was said of numerous rookie players in the past, both at the CB position and otherwise. And some of those players failed to impress...even in the current administration.

Example: Amari Spievey. He got glowing reviews at the initial portion of training camp his rookie year, playing at corner. Once they got into pre-season games, he started his downward spiral at the position.

Derrick Williams is another one. He was getting some good reviews in early parts of camp, but the kid was useless.

I am hoping that Bentley and Greenwood can show that they were steals in their respective rounds (I hope that for all our picks). But I'll reserve judgement until I can watch them in the pre-season games the next few weeks and see how they do against decent players in game situations. Not just whether they make plays, but how they go about it.


I agree with your general point, but Spievey was injured for the bulk of his first training camp, and so he didn't get much playing time/rave reviews. He was getting good feedback in camp last year though.


He was getting good feedback at safety. However, when he first came into the Lions training camp in 2010, he was a cornerback and was getting some love in the press on how well he was doing. However, once more and more looks were being injected into the defense he started struggling. By the second pre-season game, he was moved to safety because it was obvious he couldn't handle the CB position.

It comes back to why I'm saying don't put too much store in how "good" Bentley, or any other rookie, looks right now. The schemes they are running this early are very simplified, and with little contact taking place it is way too tough to make that judgement. Better indication of just how well they will fare comes when they face other teams.

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Which is why I think, the coaching staff thinks, and Spievey himself thinks that this is pretty much a make or break year for him. He is now getting a full offseason to work with so he cant use that as an excuse, not that hes making excuses or anything.

As far as Bentley goes, its obviously a great thing that hes looking good in practice and is getting raved about by coaches and teammates. Its also a good thing that he has to go up against Calvin and Titus in practice, which should definetly make him better. BUT, until the preseason and regular season, this kinda almost means nothing, except hope for the best.

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Louis Delmas undergoes surgical procedure on knee
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ALLEN PARK — Louis Delmas underwent a surgical procedure on Tuesday on his left knee, the team announced this morning (Wednesday).

The surgery was performed by Dr. James Andrews of Birmingham, Ala., a pre-eminent orthopedic specialist.

Delmas has missed the majority of training camp with knee soreness. He underwent knee surgery in December on his right knee.

Obviously he won’t be ready for Friday’s preseason game.

The team offered no other information. Coach Jim Schwartz may have more to say on the Delmas situation following this morning’s practice.

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By the sounds of it, Delmas might be ready for the season opener?

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Chris Houston uses Calvin Johnson to prepare for big tasks
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Not many people covering Calvin Johnson come out of the transaction looking good.

But Lions cornerback Chris Houston hopes it helps when it’s time to cover people not Calvin Johnson.

“He’s the best wide receiver in the game,” Houston told Dave Birkett of the Detroit Free Press. “He’s giving you hell day in and day out, and it’s training camp.

“We have to face guys like Brandon Marshall, Larry Fitzgerald, so he’s preparing us for that. That’s what I go to practice thinking about.”

Of course, it’s hard when you’re going through it. Birkett said Houston walked off the practice field shaking his head recently, saying: “God should have given me 4 more inches. Do you know what it’s like to hold Calvin Johnson every day? It’s hell.” :shock: :lol:

Houston better get ready, because he’ll be drawing opponents’ top receivers all year.

After cutting Aaron Berry just before the start of camp, the Lions are left with nothing but questions at the other corner, meaning the pressure will fall squarely on the 5-foot-11 Houston.

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Kevin Smith leg injury...didn't finish practice. :shock:

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It just keeps getting better and better.
Dup post. Merged into Training Camp 2012 thread....

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