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regularjoe12 wrote:
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The main problem with the "science" in the above article is it's using 1951-1980 as it's baseline


One of the scientist behind this report was interviewed on Sci Friday on NPR. He said even if the same study was produced in any other period the standard deviation is still significant.

As an aside, those who wish to discuss this matter on a scientific level should know something about theory. In the science community, the word theory is not synonymous for 'educated guess'. The word for that is hypothesis. A scientific theory is more related to the term law.

you went to far in the opposite direction with that. theory is NOT law. a theory has goals to become a Law, but should not considered the same as a law on principle.

For example...Stephen Hawkings just had the bulk of his black hole theories proven inacurate recently, thus the evolution of string theory has grown. 2 years ago some would have swore that to be a law in the works......whoops

Theories start out as educated guesses backed by significant data. this gets testeed and tested and tested untill it can not be proven wrong THEN becomes a law. While a theory should not be dismissed just because it's a theory (Einsteins theory of relativity for example) but should not be considered a Law either...ask poor Mr. Hawkings


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Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.[3] This is significantly different from the word "theory" in common usage, which implies that something is unproven or speculative.[5]
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A common misconception is that scientific theories are rudimentary ideas that will eventually graduate into scientific laws when enough data and evidence has been accumulated. A theory does not change into a scientific law with the accumulation of new or better evidence. A theory will always remain a theory; a law will always remain a law.[23][26]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory


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Post Re: Research Links Extreme Summer Heat Events to Global Warm
regularjoe12 wrote:
Stallion wrote:
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The main problem with the "science" in the above article is it's using 1951-1980 as it's baseline


One of the scientist behind this report was interviewed on Sci Friday on NPR. He said even if the same study was produced in any other period the standard deviation is still significant.

As an aside, those who wish to discuss this matter on a scientific level should know something about theory. In the science community, the word theory is not synonymous for 'educated guess'. The word for that is hypothesis. A scientific theory is more related to the term law.

you went to far in the opposite direction with that. theory is NOT law. .....words words words...mumbles.. Pretty much nothing else to read here...move along about your buisness... :oops: :-$



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Post Re: Research Links Extreme Summer Heat Events to Global Warm
regularjoe12 wrote:
regularjoe12 wrote:
Stallion wrote:
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The main problem with the "science" in the above article is it's using 1951-1980 as it's baseline


One of the scientist behind this report was interviewed on Sci Friday on NPR. He said even if the same study was produced in any other period the standard deviation is still significant.

As an aside, those who wish to discuss this matter on a scientific level should know something about theory. In the science community, the word theory is not synonymous for 'educated guess'. The word for that is hypothesis. A scientific theory is more related to the term law.

you went to far in the opposite direction with that. theory is NOT law. .....words words words...mumbles.. Pretty much nothing else to read here...move along about your buisness... :oops: :-$


Fixed! :cheers:


Celebrating being corrected? Stallion said theory is closer in meaning to law, in scientific terms... meaning it is something to be respected. He didn't say anything necessarily incorrect. You, on the other hand, have.


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So you corrected me.....I admitted I was wrong by posting a retraction ( albeit with humor....sorry that one flew over your head) and you still come at me a 2nd time to tell me I was wrong? :-s



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So you corrected me.....I admitted I was wrong by posting a retraction ( albeit with humor....sorry that one flew over your head) and you still come at me a 2nd time to tell me I was wrong? :-s



You stay classy San Diego....


Yes - I misread what you said... twice! Sorry, man.


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regularjoe12 wrote:
So you corrected me.....I admitted I was wrong by posting a retraction ( albeit with humor....sorry that one flew over your head) and you still come at me a 2nd time to tell me I was wrong? :-s



You stay classy San Diego....


Yes - I misread what you said... twice! Sorry, man.


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Pablo wrote:
This issue is a funny one to me. I've seen lots of evidence supporting global warming and lots of evidence saying it is caused by other things. People tend to gravitate to the supporting evidence if they lean that way or quickly dismiss it if they don't.

Logic dictates that as human population continues to increase and we change the landscape around the globe there will be consequences.

I would propose a path of caution and continued research. I don't see harm in protecting the environment, so long as it is done in a controlled and economically feasible manner.


I don't want the environment to be plundered either. But, just look at the other planets in our solar system to see that it is not a man made situation. Every planet in our solar system is warming up. How is that man's fault? The most common sense answer is that the sun is burning hotter for some reason.


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From MY perspective, the Global Warming is a CONTROL ISSUE.

The US and remaining G6 or however many there are now, have instituted GREEN Laws, to "save the environment" which have done nothing more than regulate, strangulate, and limit companies and consumers. Meanwhile, China, and just about any other country that chooses to ignore the standard, does so at the cost of us all.

1979 there was a Global Cooling scare that had all kinds of science to support that we'd be wearing parkas by 2000, and that didn't happen.

Like many other things in this society it is about CONTROL.

But that's my opinion, take it for what it's worth, or don't.


And we had Al Gore Senior to thank for the Global Cooling farce. Like Father/Like Son.


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