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m2karateman
RIP Killer
Joined: October 20th, 2004, 4:16 pm Posts: 10408 Location: Where ever I'm at now
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DJ-B wrote: conversion02 wrote: SLH needs to be resigned immediately...but it's too bad he will likely leave for a starting gig. The guy is one of the most underrated players in the game. Agreed. His value to a team running a 3-4 is even moreso. Id swear the only reason he doesnt get more PT is because (1) we have drafted some high level talent at his position and (2) hes more of a run Stuffer than a Penetrating DT and our style is more penetration. Hopefully we can bring him back for fair value and let him step right in to C Williams Role, and bring in a UDFA or UFA to be #4 who can be groomed just like he was. Id feel confident with Suh and SLH Starting with Fairley to spell both. Actually DJ-B, the bolded part is not really true. Last season he led the team in QB pressures, based on a per snap played average. He often overpowers single blockers and is quick off the snap (without jumping off sides like Corey). He has the strength and agility to work through double teams. I agree that Hill needs to be resigned, and I also feel he should take on a much bigger role in the defense in regards to playing time. If the Lions want to pair a big NT style DT with a UT style DT, I think the Hill/Suh combination would be the most effective we could put on the field. Corey Williams is declining, hence the reason why I have felt that he's not worth what he's being paid. My depth chart would have Suh and Hill above Corey, with Fairley being fourth simply because of lack of playing time.
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September 7th, 2012, 1:31 pm |
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LionsFan4Life
Fired Head Coach (0-16 record)
Joined: October 30th, 2004, 12:30 pm Posts: 2205 Location: Austin, TX
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I believe CWill will be gone after this season.. leaving us Suh/Hill/Fairley in that order.. I am sure the Lions can find another solid DT in the draft or FA. It may just be me.. but I have a feeling that the Lions won't need to overpay players to come here anymore, based on what the franchise has done since Mayhew took over as GM.
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September 7th, 2012, 2:13 pm |
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DJ-B
Pro Bowl Player
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Fair enough M2, i probably am not giving SLH his due as a pass rusher also, but my point was more along the lines of , he is the only NT style DT we have on the team (at least IMO) who could play in a 3-4 and be very valuable as a NT to them, while also having the talent to play in the 4-3 as a Run Stuffer & Pressure DT. LionsFan4Life wrote: I believe CWill will be gone after this season.. leaving us Suh/Hill/Fairley in that order.. I am sure the Lions can find another solid DT in the draft or FA. It may just be me.. but I have a feeling that the Lions won't need to overpay players to come here anymore, based on what the franchise has done since Mayhew took over as GM. Agreed. And Even if we dont Draft or Lure a FA here, we know Mayhew can pull a LoJack or Turk McBride type of trade to fill that 4th spot. As has been discussed he usually does well with those types of trades.
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September 7th, 2012, 2:31 pm |
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inheritedlionsfan
League MVP
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September 7th, 2012, 8:34 pm |
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thelomasbrowns
Player of the Year - Offense
Joined: August 24th, 2010, 9:54 pm Posts: 2873
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DJ-B wrote: Fair enough M2, i probably am not giving SLH his due as a pass rusher also, but my point was more along the lines of , he is the only NT style DT we have on the team (at least IMO) who could play in a 3-4 and be very valuable as a NT to them, while also having the talent to play in the 4-3 as a Run Stuffer & Pressure DT. LionsFan4Life wrote: I believe CWill will be gone after this season.. leaving us Suh/Hill/Fairley in that order.. I am sure the Lions can find another solid DT in the draft or FA. It may just be me.. but I have a feeling that the Lions won't need to overpay players to come here anymore, based on what the franchise has done since Mayhew took over as GM. Agreed. And Even if we dont Draft or Lure a FA here, we know Mayhew can pull a LoJack or Turk McBride type of trade to fill that 4th spot. As has been discussed he usually does well with those types of trades. Brian Price anyone?
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September 8th, 2012, 9:16 am |
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m2karateman
RIP Killer
Joined: October 20th, 2004, 4:16 pm Posts: 10408 Location: Where ever I'm at now
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thelomasbrowns wrote: DJ-B wrote: Fair enough M2, i probably am not giving SLH his due as a pass rusher also, but my point was more along the lines of , he is the only NT style DT we have on the team (at least IMO) who could play in a 3-4 and be very valuable as a NT to them, while also having the talent to play in the 4-3 as a Run Stuffer & Pressure DT. LionsFan4Life wrote: I believe CWill will be gone after this season.. leaving us Suh/Hill/Fairley in that order.. I am sure the Lions can find another solid DT in the draft or FA. It may just be me.. but I have a feeling that the Lions won't need to overpay players to come here anymore, based on what the franchise has done since Mayhew took over as GM. Agreed. And Even if we dont Draft or Lure a FA here, we know Mayhew can pull a LoJack or Turk McBride type of trade to fill that 4th spot. As has been discussed he usually does well with those types of trades. Brian Price anyone? No way. The Bears are in need of a DT and they didn't want him. Price was a question mark when the Bucs drafted him, pretty much a boom or bust due to his work ethic. Now following an injury, the bust is pretty much all that's left. In regards to Hill, I agree that he would be really good as a NT in a 34. I'm sure there are some teams wanting him to shake loose from our roster so that they could nab him for that position. There are times where he seems lost, and other times he seems invincible, so he still needs to work on his consistency and reads. But I think he's more talented than CW, just not as experienced. The Lions need to give him more snaps.
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September 8th, 2012, 12:27 pm |
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TheRealWags
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Joined: December 31st, 2004, 9:55 am Posts: 12534
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Freep wrote: Lions' Matthew Stafford could pass 350-yard record SundaySeptember 13, 2012 By Dave Birkett Playing from behind has its perks -- including, at the very least, a share of an NFL record. Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford tied Drew Brees' mark with his fourth straight 350-yard passing game in Sunday's come-from-behind win over the St. Louis Rams. Stafford completed 32 of 48 passes for 355 yards with three interceptions. His last 80 yards came on the game-winning touchdown drive in the final 2 minutes. Last year, Stafford closed the season with 391 yards in a win over the Raiders, 373 yards in a playoff-clinching victory against the Chargers and a career-best 520 in a loss to the Packers. He also threw for 380 yards in the wild-card loss to the Saints, but that game doesn't count toward the record. Brees set the mark in Weeks 3-6 last season. "That's cool, I guess," Stafford said Wednesday when told of the record. "Not something I set out to do five games ago, but it's obviously a cool thing. But winning, that's the coolest thing for me. Who knows what the stats will look like this week? Nobody does, but hopefully we can do whatever we need to do to get a win." The Lions play the 49ers on Sunday night -- almost certainly the best defense the Lions will face this year. Last year, Stafford threw for 293 yards against the 49ers, but he completed just 28 of 50 passes and was sacked five times. He said he doesn't anticipate having many chances to throw deep Sunday. "They're a two-high operation," Stafford said. "They've got two safeties deep most of the time and a pretty good corner, so we'll see. We're just going to try to go out there, execute our game plan and play at a high level. It should be a fun game." Contact Dave Birkett: 313-222-2037 or dbirkett@freepress.com. Follow him on Twitter @davebirkett.
Free Press beat writer Dave Birkett will answer your Lions questions in a live chat at 3 p.m. Friday at freep.com/sports. Submit early questions here. Then come back Sunday night as Carlos Monarrez live-blogs the Lions-49ers game. And make your NFL picks here.http://www.freep.com/article/20120913/S ... it%20Lions
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BillySims
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Joined: May 7th, 2005, 3:25 pm Posts: 9011 Location: Earth/Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy
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DJ-B wrote: Fair enough M2, i probably am not giving SLH his due as a pass rusher also, but my point was more along the lines of , he is the only NT style DT we have on the team (at least IMO) who could play in a 3-4 and be very valuable as a NT to them, while also having the talent to play in the 4-3 as a Run Stuffer & Pressure DT. LionsFan4Life wrote: I believe CWill will be gone after this season.. leaving us Suh/Hill/Fairley in that order.. I am sure the Lions can find another solid DT in the draft or FA. It may just be me.. but I have a feeling that the Lions won't need to overpay players to come here anymore, based on what the franchise has done since Mayhew took over as GM. Agreed. And Even if we dont Draft or Lure a FA here, we know Mayhew can pull a LoJack or Turk McBride type of trade to fill that 4th spot. As has been discussed he usually does well with those types of trades. With as many talented D-Linemen that we have, I think we should be playing a 5-2-4 defense. I love the idea of our D-line looking like this: Avril------------Williams/Fairley------Hill--------Suh----------KVB/Young There isn't an offense in the league that our 5 man D-line couldn't destroy quickly. They, ( opposing Offense), would not even be able to play a screen game because they would be forced into max protect mode full time. The 2 LBers and 4 DB's would only have to cover for roughly 4 seconds and down goes the opposing QB.
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September 13th, 2012, 7:36 pm |
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regularjoe12
Def. Coordinator – Teryl Austin
Joined: March 30th, 2006, 12:48 am Posts: 4212 Location: Davison Mi
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BillySims wrote: DJ-B wrote: Fair enough M2, i probably am not giving SLH his due as a pass rusher also, but my point was more along the lines of , he is the only NT style DT we have on the team (at least IMO) who could play in a 3-4 and be very valuable as a NT to them, while also having the talent to play in the 4-3 as a Run Stuffer & Pressure DT. LionsFan4Life wrote: I believe CWill will be gone after this season.. leaving us Suh/Hill/Fairley in that order.. I am sure the Lions can find another solid DT in the draft or FA. It may just be me.. but I have a feeling that the Lions won't need to overpay players to come here anymore, based on what the franchise has done since Mayhew took over as GM. Agreed. And Even if we dont Draft or Lure a FA here, we know Mayhew can pull a LoJack or Turk McBride type of trade to fill that 4th spot. As has been discussed he usually does well with those types of trades. With as many talented D-Linemen that we have, I think we should be playing a 5-2-4 defense. I love the idea of our D-line looking like this: Avril------------Williams/Fairley------Hill--------Suh----------KVB/Young There isn't an offense in the league that our 5 man D-line couldn't destroy quickly. They, ( opposing Offense), would not even be able to play a screen game because they would be forced into max protect mode full time. The 2 LBers and 4 DB's would only have to cover for roughly 4 seconds and down goes the opposing QB. Good lord you need to share that cornbread! It's gotta taste awesome! Lol 
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September 13th, 2012, 7:54 pm |
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Pablo
RIP Killer
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Think of the Lions as a young, up and coming team? freep wrote: Lions have the oldest roster in NFL
While much of it is concentrated in the kicking game and along the offensive line, the Detroit Lions have the oldest roster in the NFL. The Lions averaged 27.42 years old on their opening-day roster this year. The San Diego Chargers (27.27) were the only other team with an average age older than 27. Kicker Jason Hanson, who turned 42 in June, and punter Ben Graham, who turns 39 in November, are among the oldest players in the league, but the Lions also have the NFL's second-oldest starting line with three players in their 30s, left tackle Jeff Backus (34), center Dominic Raiola (33) and right guard Stephen Peterman (30). Eleven other Lions enter the season 30 or older, including starters Nate Burleson (31), Erik Coleman (30), Kyle Vanden Bosch (33), Corey Williams (32) and long-snapper Don Muhlbach (31). The Chargers (18) are the only team with more players over age 30.
The average age of NFL players on opening-weekend rosters was 26.22 years old.
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regularjoe12
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Pablo wrote: Think of the Lions as a young, up and coming team? freep wrote: Lions have the oldest roster in NFL
While much of it is concentrated in the kicking game and along the offensive line, the Detroit Lions have the oldest roster in the NFL. The Lions averaged 27.42 years old on their opening-day roster this year. The San Diego Chargers (27.27) were the only other team with an average age older than 27. Kicker Jason Hanson, who turned 42 in June, and punter Ben Graham, who turns 39 in November, are among the oldest players in the league, but the Lions also have the NFL's second-oldest starting line with three players in their 30s, left tackle Jeff Backus (34), center Dominic Raiola (33) and right guard Stephen Peterman (30). Eleven other Lions enter the season 30 or older, including starters Nate Burleson (31), Erik Coleman (30), Kyle Vanden Bosch (33), Corey Williams (32) and long-snapper Don Muhlbach (31). The Chargers (18) are the only team with more players over age 30.
The average age of NFL players on opening-weekend rosters was 26.22 years old.
Wow! I would not have guessed that wth all the youngins we got running around ford field!
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September 14th, 2012, 11:35 am |
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fekko2
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That number is really pretty deceiving. Two guys skew it for us bigtime...Hanson and Graham. If you converted these two (Hanson is the oldest guy in the leagur) into 21 year olds, the avg age on the Lions is 26.7 which is right at the avg age for an NFL football player and right in line with our division rivals. They are really at the only two postions other than QB where you can still be that age and be affective in the NFL. So we are good!
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September 14th, 2012, 4:51 pm |
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TheRealWags
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DetroitLions.com wrote: Lions sign CB Conroy Black to practice squad; release RB Stephfon GreenPosted by ttwentyman on September 18, 2012 – 1:53 pm The Lions signed Conroy Black, one of the fastest cornerbacks in the draft this year, to their practice squad on Tuesday. Black, who visited the Lions before the draft as one of the team’s allotted pre-draft visits, went undrafted in April. He was signed by the Raiders following the draft, but was released in August. The Lions released running back Stephfon Green to make room for Black on the practice squad. The Lions are shorthanded in their secondary with the recent arm injury to cornerback Drayton Florence but are hoping to get cornerbacks Chris Houston and Bill Bentley back this week against the Titans. http://blogs.detroitlions.com/2012/09/1 ... fon-green/
MLive wrote: Detroit Lions claim CB Jerome Murphy, waive Kevin BarnesBy Justin Rogers | jrogers@mlive.comon September 18, 2012 at 4:40 PM, updated September 18, 2012 at 4:44 PM According to the beat writer for the team's official website, the Detroit Lions have claimed cornerback Jerome Murphy off of waivers and released Kevin Barnes. The 6-foot, 200-pound Murphy was a third-round draft pick by the St. Louis Rams in 2010. As a rookie, he appeared in 14 games, making 30 tackles, forcing two fumbles, intercepting one pass and defending three others. He spent the 2011 season on injured reserve after breaking his ankle in training camp and was cut by the Rams earlier this month. Murphy was claimed by the Saints and appeared in the team's season opener, making three tackles. Murphy was released by the Saints on Monday. Coming out of the University of South Florida, Murphy was considered to have good size, strength and speed (4.40 40-yard dash) for his position, but was known to be aggressive to a fault at times. He had 144 tackles, seven interceptions and 19 pass defenses in his final two seasons with the Bulls. The Lions traded a conditional draft pick to the Washington Redskins for Barnes on the day teams were required to trim down to their final 53-man rosters. Those conditions have not been clarified by the team. Barnes played 14 defensive snaps against the 49ers on Sunday. http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/20 ... erome.html
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September 18th, 2012, 4:47 pm |
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TheRealWags
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MLive wrote: Louis Delmas, Bill Bentley 'improving,' according to Detroit Lions head coach Jim SchwartzBy Philip Zaroo | pzaroo@mlive.comon September 18, 2012 at 12:24 PM, updated September 18, 2012 at 2:09 PM The health of the Detroit Lions defensive secondary is in rapid and alarming decline. The unit can't seem to catch a break, unless you count the forearm of cornerback Drayton Florence. Chris Houston is still trying to recover from a high ankle sprain suffered during the preseason, so the Lions would be tickled to get Louis Delmas and Bill Bentley back from their own injuries. Alas, there's little to report along that front, according to Jim Schwartz, speaking on WXYT 97.1 Detroit. "(Delmas) is on an improved path, but him getting back on the field, the only timetable we have for that is his health," said the head coach, who is notoriously cryptic about player injuries. "When he's ready to go, he'll be back out there. And we're not going to put him out there too soon. "We didn't go into it saying this is the particular timeframe. The timeframe is his body, and how his knee's feeling. If his knee's feeling good, he'll be back out there. He's an important player to us, a big part of our plans. Whether it's this week or not, we'll tell as the week goes on." Bentley suffered a concussion in Detroit's Week 1 win over St. Louis. The rookie cornerback hasn't been practicing with the team, but Schwartz sounded optimistic as far as that goes. "He's improved," Schwartz said. "We'll get him back on the practice field and just see where he goes from there, but he is improved. "I think you saw across the league – Darrelle Revis missed a game with a concussion; Bentley missed a game with a concussion. I think we're witnessing the NFL's increased awareness of concussion and how to recover from a concussion, and all those different things. It was disappointing to lose him last week, but if that keeps him better over the course of a season, over the course of his career, then we're on the right track." Email Philip Zaroo at pzaroo@mlive.com or follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/philipzaroo. http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/20 ... cart_river
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September 18th, 2012, 4:52 pm |
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m2karateman
RIP Killer
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I kind of had a feeling that the Lions would claim Jerome Murphy after the Saints released him. I just didn't think they'd release Kevin Barnes. With Drayton Florence having what appears to be a long term injury, why not just IR Florence and keep Barnes with Murphy?
I also don't like that they released Stefon Green from the PS. I thought he did some decent things in the pre-season. All that said, I'll trust they know MUCH, MUCH more than I do about the players, and are doing what's best for the team.
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