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I dont know why he would say this now. He threw a pick against SF. And made bad READs and DECISIONs against STL resulting un the picks. Its not like he has had horrible Eli Manning/Tony Romo throws.


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http://www.freep.com/article/20121015/SPORTS01/121015048/detroit-lions-jahvid-best-jim-schwartz?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Detroit%20Lions

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By Dave Birkett
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5:15 PM, October 15, 2012

On the eve of the one year anniversary of his last concussion, Jahvid Best and the Lions got the news they’d been dreading.

The third-year running back was not cleared to return to football after a consultation with team and national doctors Monday, leaving his season in doubt and his career in jeopardy.

“After today’s consultation with medical experts, including representatives from our medical and training staffs, it has been determined that Jahvid will not be permitted to return to play at this time,” Lions general manager Martin Mayhew said in a statement.

“Throughout this entire process we always have placed the highest priority on what is best for Jahvid from a health and safety standpoint. While today’s decision is disappointing from a football perspective, we fully and entirely respect and support this recommendation.”

Best has not played since Oct. 16 of last year when he suffered the second of two brain injuries two months apart.

He also had at least one serious concussion in college that cut short his career at Cal and caused several teams to remove him from their draft board.

Best, who went through a panel of tests last Monday, said last week he wouldn’t consider retirement if he wasn’t cleared to return.

“No,” he said. “Then we’ll have to sit back down and have more discussions and see where we can go from there.”

Though it seems unlikely Best will return this season – or maybe ever again – the Lions didn’t rule out a comeback this year in their statement or in comments coach Jim Schwartz made on his Monday night radio show.

“Jahvid will continue to work with our medical and training staffs with the hope that he ultimately will be cleared to return to the playing field,” Mayhew said in his statement.

Schwartz, who declined comment about Best when approached by a Free Press reporter Monday evening, said “time hasn’t run out” on Best being able to play this season.

Since he started the year on the physically unable to perform list, the Lions have 21 days from Monday to begin practicing Best and another three weeks to promote him to the 53-man roster before he’s officially lost for the year.

“It’s nothing that we can control,” Schwartz said. “As a team, as a coaching staff, as a training staff, we’ve all acknowledged that concussions are different. We have the player safety and the health of our players at the forefront and we move on. We have to prepare to play Chicago without him and if he gets cleared then we’ll get him involved.”

Bears safety Chris Conte, who roomed with Best his freshman year at Cal, told the Chicago Tribune was hit hard by the Best news Monday.

“That’s terrible news to hear,” Conte told the paper. “I know he had a bad concussion at Cal and a lot of us were worried about his health then. For the long term, this might be best for him.”

Best has said several times in recent months that he hasn’t experienced post-concussion symptoms since he returned to working out last December.

But he’s declined so far to provide details on what concussion tests have revealed and the exact nature of why he hasn’t been cleared.

Tony Fleming, Best’s agent, did not return phone calls and text messages seeking comment Monday. Best tweeted, “Thanks for the love and support! #golions”.

Despite his history of concussions, the Lions coveted Best’s big-play ability enough that they traded up to get him with the 30th pick of the 2010 draft.

He played all 16 games as a rookie, battling turf-toe injuries on both feet, and finished with 555 yards rushing and four touchdowns. In six games last year, Best rushed for 390 yards and two scores.

The Lions were hopeful enough about his return this off-season that they did not pursue an all-purpose back as insurance in free agency or the draft.

Mikel Leshoure has started the last three games at running back since returning from a two-game suspension and the torn Achilles tendon he suffered as a rookie, and the Lions will count on a combination of Leshoure and Joique Bell in the backfield going forward.


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By Dave Birkett
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5:15 PM, October 15, 2012

On the eve of the one year anniversary of his last concussion, Jahvid Best and the Lions got the news they’d been dreading.

The third-year running back was not cleared to return to football after a consultation with team and national doctors Monday, leaving his season in doubt and his career in jeopardy.

“After today’s consultation with medical experts, including representatives from our medical and training staffs, it has been determined that Jahvid will not be permitted to return to play at this time,” Lions general manager Martin Mayhew said in a statement.

“Throughout this entire process we always have placed the highest priority on what is best for Jahvid from a health and safety standpoint. While today’s decision is disappointing from a football perspective, we fully and entirely respect and support this recommendation.”

Best has not played since Oct. 16 of last year when he suffered the second of two brain injuries two months apart.

He also had at least one serious concussion in college that cut short his career at Cal and caused several teams to remove him from their draft board.

Best, who went through a panel of tests last Monday, said last week he wouldn’t consider retirement if he wasn’t cleared to return.

“No,” he said. “Then we’ll have to sit back down and have more discussions and see where we can go from there.”

Though it seems unlikely Best will return this season – or maybe ever again – the Lions didn’t rule out a comeback this year in their statement or in comments coach Jim Schwartz made on his Monday night radio show.

“Jahvid will continue to work with our medical and training staffs with the hope that he ultimately will be cleared to return to the playing field,” Mayhew said in his statement.

Schwartz, who declined comment about Best when approached by a Free Press reporter Monday evening, said “time hasn’t run out” on Best being able to play this season.

Since he started the year on the physically unable to perform list, the Lions have 21 days from Monday to begin practicing Best and another three weeks to promote him to the 53-man roster before he’s officially lost for the year.

“It’s nothing that we can control,” Schwartz said. “As a team, as a coaching staff, as a training staff, we’ve all acknowledged that concussions are different. We have the player safety and the health of our players at the forefront and we move on. We have to prepare to play Chicago without him and if he gets cleared then we’ll get him involved.”

Bears safety Chris Conte, who roomed with Best his freshman year at Cal, told the Chicago Tribune was hit hard by the Best news Monday.

“That’s terrible news to hear,” Conte told the paper. “I know he had a bad concussion at Cal and a lot of us were worried about his health then. For the long term, this might be best for him.”

Best has said several times in recent months that he hasn’t experienced post-concussion symptoms since he returned to working out last December.

But he’s declined so far to provide details on what concussion tests have revealed and the exact nature of why he hasn’t been cleared.

Tony Fleming, Best’s agent, did not return phone calls and text messages seeking comment Monday. Best tweeted, “Thanks for the love and support! #golions”.

Despite his history of concussions, the Lions coveted Best’s big-play ability enough that they traded up to get him with the 30th pick of the 2010 draft.

He played all 16 games as a rookie, battling turf-toe injuries on both feet, and finished with 555 yards rushing and four touchdowns. In six games last year, Best rushed for 390 yards and two scores.

The Lions were hopeful enough about his return this off-season that they did not pursue an all-purpose back as insurance in free agency or the draft.

Mikel Leshoure has started the last three games at running back since returning from a two-game suspension and the torn Achilles tendon he suffered as a rookie, and the Lions will count on a combination of Leshoure and Joique Bell in the backfield going forward.

Another link discussing this: http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2012/10/jahvid_best_fails_neurological.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+detroit-lions+%28Detroit+Lions+-+MLive.com%29

The most telling quotes from the article:

"According to several sources, Best was never going to be cleared, but the Lions wanted him to accrue another NFL season so the running back could have access to the NFL's pension plan, which is obtained after three years of service."

"As of today, it appears unlikely that Best will play in another NFL game."

"However, family members have been concerned about Best's long-term health, and have pressured him to retire for months."

So it seems Best may be done. Obviously not certain, but it definitely wouldn't be a surprise. Class move by the Lions keeping him on board for a third year so he is eligible for the pension.

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October 16th, 2012, 12:30 pm
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Touchdown Jesus wrote:
Another link discussing this: http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2012/10/jahvid_best_fails_neurological.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+detroit-lions+%28Detroit+Lions+-+MLive.com%29

The most telling quotes from the article:

"According to several sources, Best was never going to be cleared, but the Lions wanted him to accrue another NFL season so the running back could have access to the NFL's pension plan, which is obtained after three years of service."

"As of today, it appears unlikely that Best will play in another NFL game."

"However, family members have been concerned about Best's long-term health, and have pressured him to retire for months."

So it seems Best may be done. Obviously not certain, but it definitely wouldn't be a surprise. Class move by the Lions keeping him on board for a third year so he is eligible for the pension.
Please discuss this here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16137

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Posted by Josh Alper on October 17, 2012, 8:19 AM EDT

The Lions still don’t have the green light to start working with running back Jahvid Best, but another player on their PUP list will be back at practice this week.

Rookie cornerback Chris Greenwood has been designated to return to practice with Detroit, giving the team three weeks to decide whether to activate him to the 53-man roster. Given the shaky depth in the Lions secondary, it seems like just a matter of time before they decide to get the fifth-round pick into a game.

Greenwood underwent surgery on his abdomen after getting hurt during OTAs in May, which means that his next padded practice will be his first as a professional. He knows that leaves him with lots of catching up to do.

“I’ve been rehabbing and getting back strong, going through drills and everything like that in my rehab to try and get back into that football shape,” Greenwood said, via the team’s website. “But there’s no substitute for actually getting out there and doing it. I’m going to get out there and see how it feels, take it one day at a time.”

Greenwood’s size and athleticism got him drafted out of small Albion College and they are traits the Lions could certainly use at cornerback this season. Whether they get it will be up to Greenwood’s ability to pick things up quickly.

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October 17th, 2012, 10:16 am
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Detroit Lions re-sign CB Alphonso Smith; release RB Keiland Williams

ALLEN PARK -- The Detroit Lions have re-signed cornerback Alphonso Smith and released running back Keiland Williams.

Smith and former Lions cornerback Justin Miller worked out for Detroit yesterday. Lions rookie cornerback Bill Bentley is battling a shoulder injury, while cornerback Jacob Lacey is recovering from a concussion he sustained against the Philadelphia Eagles. Detroit signed Smith to a one-year deal worth $700,00 as a result of those injuries.

Bentley and Lacey did not participate in yesterday's practice leading up to Detroit's road game against the Chicago Bears on Monday Night Football. If neither are able to play, Smith or rookie Jonte Green could start against Chicago.

Smith was a second-round selection by Denver in 2009. He was traded to Detroit in 2010.

During Smith's three-year NFL career, he started in 10 of 39 games, plus has eight interceptions and 73 tackles. He was Detroit's No.1 cornerback at the start of this year's training camp, but lost that position to Bentley after a few days. He eventually was released prior to this season.

Smith worked out for the Miami Dolphins, but now rejoins the Detroit Lions.

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Detroit Lions defensive tackle Corey Williams back at practice
By Anwar S. Richardson | arichar2@mlive.com
on October 18, 2012 at 11:47 AM

ALLEN PARK -- Detroit Lions defensive tackle Corey Williams is participating in his first practice since undergoing knee surgery recently.

Williams had knee surgery on September 25 after injuring it this offseason. He was limited in practices prior to the surgery, and had been on the sidelines prior to today.

However, Williams was fully participating in the first 30 minutes of practice media members were allowed to watch on Thursday.

While Williams has returned, Lions safety Louis Delmas (knee), cornerback Bill Bentley (shoulder), cornerback Jacob Lacey (concussion) and defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch (non-injury related) are not participating in practice. Delmas participated in Wednesday's practice, and barring any setbacks, was likely given today off to rest.

Bentley and Lacey are still recovering from their injuries, which resulted in Detroit's re-signing of cornerback Alphonso Smith, who was practicing with his teammates today.

Detroit will release its official injury report later this afternoon.

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/20 ... cart_river
Good to CW is back, but they're hurting in the secondary...hope Phonze steps up

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Hopefully Greenwood can get up to speed quick, tho he is a rook.....
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By Justin Rogers | jrogers@mlive.com
on October 17, 2012 at 5:05 PM,
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ALLEN PARK -- For this first time since organized team activities in the summer, rookie cornerback Chris Greenwood was on the practice field for the Detroit Lions Wednesday.

Greenwood, a fifth-round draft pick out of Albion, was placed on the physically unable to perform list prior to the start of training camp after having surgery to repair a sports hernia.

Even though he was physically capable of returning sooner, the PUP designation required Greenwood be sidelined the first six weeks of the season. Wednesday was the first day he was eligible to be back.

After the lengthy layoff, the focus is on getting the cornerback physically and mentally caught up to his teammates.

"It's been a long time," coach Jim Schwartz said. "We'll get him up to speed as quickly as we can."

Greenwood didn't have any idea how long it would take before he was feeling comfortable and confident on the practice field.

"There's no telling," he said. "I've never had this injury before, so I'm going day by day."

With cornerbacks Bill Bentley and Jacob Lacey sidelined with injures, Greenwood was likely the recipient of some extra reps. He even got a few chances to line up across from Calvin Johnson. Greenwood didn't sound star struck by the matchup.

"I did, a couple times," Greenwood said. "He's going to be out there. I just have to go do my job."

The biggest benefit Greenwood had while out was having the time to immerse himself in the Lions' playbook and film study.

"I definitely got a lot of extra study time in seeing that I wasn't practicing, Greenwood said. "I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on all the things I need to have a grasp on."

Now that Greenwood has returned to practice, the Detroit Lions have 21 days to decide what to do with him. They could activate him to the 53-man roster, cut him, or, if he has a setback or sustains a different injury, he can be placed on injured reserve.

"Yeah, you see how he is before you (make a decision)," Schwartz said last week.

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ALLEN PARK -- Detroit Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh attempted to clear up speculation that he is counting down the days until he can join another team.

Ngum Suh, his sister and public relations manager, randomly posted, "Thank u Jesus! Only 2.5 more years! #Freedom" on her Twitter account this past Saturday. Many speculated she was referring to the amount of time left on her brother's contract.

Ndamukong is technically under contract through 2015, but the final year is voidable after the 2014 Super Bowl, which is almost two-and-a-half years from now.

When asked to clarify her statement on Twitter, Ngum wrote,"4 those of u who don't know Im the other #Suh who played REAL football(soccer)...My tweets r not always abt @ndamukong_suh #TRYNot2BSoStupid"

Ndamukong was asked if Ngum was referring to his contract expiring after Thursday's practice, but did not answer the question directly.

"What my sister tweets, is what she tweets," Ndamukong said. "It has nothing to do with me. That's her personal account. That's why her name is on it. I have my personal account that says verified. It says my name on it."

Suh was also asked if he wanted to remain in Detroit, and his answer was less ambiguous.

"I would love to be here," Suh said. "This city is great to me. It continues to be great to me. The people are great people, and I love playing here. That's why I wear the jersey."


Suh has endured a rough month off-the-field.


Last week, Suh was allegedly involved in a road rage incident early, according to FOX2 News. He is accused sideswiping a car, leaving the scene of the accident, and berating the victim. In addition, Suh is being sued for failure to pay back a $100,000 security deposit to a couple that rented a home he owns in Michigan.

Suh is also being sued for more than a million dollars for his role in a one-car auto accident in Portland, Ore. last December, plus served a two-game suspension in for stomping Green Bay Packers offensive lineman Evan Dietrich-Smith in 2011. The suspension cost Suh $165,000 in salary.

"There's been a microscope on me since ... what was it? I graduated high school in 05?" Suh said. "Being an Army All-American in high school, being an All-American in college, being a first-round pick, second overall, in the NFL, there's always going to be a microscope on you. That's what comes with the territory."

Despite the speculation, Detroit will realistically need to decide how valuable Suh is to its franchise very soon.

Suh is slated to earn $11.1 million in 2013, and his salary cap number is $17.1 million. In 2014, Suh will earn $11.5 million, and his salary cap number is $17.5 million. Suh is slated to make $3.5 million in 2015, and his salary cap number is $9.4 million.

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$100k security deposit? Who the F pays out $100k on a deposit to F'ing rent???

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$100k security deposit? Who the F pays out $100k on a deposit to F'ing rent???
Well, if its a multi-million dollar residence, one would think a $100,000 deposit would be about right, no?

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$100k security deposit? Who the F pays out $100k on a deposit to F'ing rent???
Well, if its a multi-million dollar residence, one would think a $100,000 deposit would be about right, no?


I have rented houses many times. Not once, have I ever got my security deposit back. Security deposits are a legalized scam that landlords use all the time. after the 1st 4 times of renting and not getting my deposit back, I have learned that in order for you to get the use of that money, you simply don't pay the rent for however long it takes to use up that deposit and then move out. It takes them longer to evict you then it takes to use up the deposit money.

Anyway, all Suh has to do is provide receipts for $100K worth of repairs that he had to have fixed because of the tenants breaking things from the time they moved in until they moved out.


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$100k security deposit? Who the F pays out $100k on a deposit to F'ing rent???
Well, if its a multi-million dollar residence, one would think a $100,000 deposit would be about right, no?


I have rented houses many times. Not once, have I ever got my security deposit back. Security deposits are a legalized scam that landlords use all the time. after the 1st 4 times of renting and not getting my deposit back, I have learned that in order for you to get the use of that money, you simply don't pay the rent for however long it takes to use up that deposit and then move out. It takes them longer to evict you then it takes to use up the deposit money.

Anyway, all Suh has to do is provide receipts for $100K worth of repairs that he had to have fixed because of the tenants breaking things from the time they moved in until they moved out.
Um..hmm..I've always gotten my security deposit back, whether from apartment or house. :confused:

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me too, perhaps it is because you keep trashing the place everytime the Lions lose Billy....

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I had to threaten to sue to get a $500 deposit back once.

But seriously, if its a multi million dollar house, why would someone rent and shell out $100k when they could put that down on a $1M house. It just doesn't make sense, especially in this economy with this housing market

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