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wjb21ndtown wrote:
What are our rookies going to cost us this year? $3.5-4M?


http://overthecap.com/rookie-pool-estimate.php

over the cap estimates our rookie pool at $7,132,706



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April 4th, 2013, 12:31 pm
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Pablo wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
What are our rookies going to cost us this year? $3.5-4M?


http://overthecap.com/rookie-pool-estimate.php

over the cap estimates our rookie pool at $7,132,706



Am I reading it right? It says thats our Cap for the one year? meaning how much we CAN spend? not what we need?

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Pablo wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
What are our rookies going to cost us this year? $3.5-4M?


http://overthecap.com/rookie-pool-estimate.php

over the cap estimates our rookie pool at $7,132,706



Am I reading it right? It says thats our Cap for the one year? meaning how much we CAN spend? not what we need?



With the rookie pool and wage scale I think that amount you "CAN" and "will" spend are one in the same, unless you don't end up signing one of your draft picks, but that's ridiculous.


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wjb21ndtown wrote:
regularjoe12 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
What are our rookies going to cost us this year? $3.5-4M?


http://overthecap.com/rookie-pool-estimate.php

over the cap estimates our rookie pool at $7,132,706



Am I reading it right? It says thats our Cap for the one year? meaning how much we CAN spend? not what we need?



With the rookie pool and wage scale I think that amount you "CAN" and "will" spend are one in the same, unless you don't end up signing one of your draft picks, but that's ridiculous.


it also doesnt account for trades forward and back either...so there is still plenty of wiggle room

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regularjoe12 wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
regularjoe12 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
What are our rookies going to cost us this year? $3.5-4M?


http://overthecap.com/rookie-pool-estimate.php

over the cap estimates our rookie pool at $7,132,706



Am I reading it right? It says thats our Cap for the one year? meaning how much we CAN spend? not what we need?



With the rookie pool and wage scale I think that amount you "CAN" and "will" spend are one in the same, unless you don't end up signing one of your draft picks, but that's ridiculous.


it also doesnt account for trades forward and back either...so there is still plenty of wiggle room


it's also not taking into account that most late round rookies get moved to the practice squad and that 2 of those contracts are usually small enough they don't count against the cap because of the top 51 rule for the cap.


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add in that one is bound to be a kicker now..prolly a 4th or so so he'll be making a lil less than what the system expects.

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Receiver Brian Robiskie released by the Detroit Lions

The Detroit Lions released receiver Brian Robiskie today.

Detroit added Robiskie last year after receiver Nate Burleson broke his leg. Robiskie was supposed to add depth, but finished with only four receptions for 44 yards and one touchdown in six games with Detroit last season.

Robiskie was a second-round pick (36th overall) by the Cleveland Browns in 2009, but waived in 2011. The Jacksonville Jaguars claimed Roboskie, but waived him prior to last season. He did not play for another team until the Lions signed him.

The release of Robiskie likely means Detroit is happy with Burleson's rehabilitation.

That being said, it was very unlikely Robiskie would have made the Lions' 53-man roster with Calvin Johnson, Ryan Broyles, Mike Thomas, Burleson, and a potential NFL draft pick, competing for playing time. Robiskie now has the opportunity to sign with another team.

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just one more reason Spievey is my least favorite Lion...

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Detroit Lions' Amari Spievey will enter family violence education program

Detroit Lions safety Amari Spievey has been granted admission into a family violence education program following a March 27 incident involving his girlfriend Lisamarie Santos, according to The Middletown Press.

If Spievey completes the program by his next court date, June 28, the charges from the incident will all be dropped.

Spievey was arrested after a verbal altercation with Santos over child support became physical. Spievey was accused of pushing his girlfriend while he accused her of grabbing him around the throat and punching him in the chest.

Both were charged with risk of injury to a child and disorderly conduct, while Spievey was also charged with third-degree assault.

While completing the education program, Spievey is prohibited from returning to Santos' residence. If he is arrested again for violation of any state or federal laws, the agreement will be voided.

Spievey was drafted by the Lions in 2010. In three seasons, he has appeared in 35 games, starting 26. He's tallied 142 tackles and five interceptions. He signed a one-year deal to remain with Detroit this offseason.

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just one more reason Spievey is my least favorite Lion...

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Detroit Lions' Amari Spievey will enter family violence education program

Detroit Lions safety Amari Spievey has been granted admission into a family violence education program following a March 27 incident involving his girlfriend Lisamarie Santos, according to The Middletown Press.

If Spievey completes the program by his next court date, June 28, the charges from the incident will all be dropped.

Spievey was arrested after a verbal altercation with Santos over child support became physical. Spievey was accused of pushing his girlfriend while he accused her of grabbing him around the throat and punching him in the chest.

Both were charged with risk of injury to a child and disorderly conduct, while Spievey was also charged with third-degree assault.

While completing the education program, Spievey is prohibited from returning to Santos' residence. If he is arrested again for violation of any state or federal laws, the agreement will be voided.

Spievey was drafted by the Lions in 2010. In three seasons, he has appeared in 35 games, starting 26. He's tallied 142 tackles and five interceptions. He signed a one-year deal to remain with Detroit this offseason.


Like I said, the guy isn't even good. To me its a no-brainer, can the guy.


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Lots of contract news today...

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Detroit Lions sign Willie Young, Brian Robiskie to 1-year deals

The Detroit Lions made a handful on Monday, including the re-signing of wide receiver Brian Robiskie and defensive end Willie Young to one-year deals, according to Tim Twentyman.
Detroit released Robiskie last week, but decided to bring the former second-round pick back to Detroit. The Lions signed Robiskie last offseason, but the former Ohio State receiver failed to make an impact. Appearing in just six games, Robiskie had four receptions on six targets, for 44 yards an a touchdown.

Cleveland selected Robiskie in the second round of the 2009 NFL Draft, but the Browns let him go after the 2011 season. Robiskie will fight for a roster spot during training camp.

The Lions also re-signed defensive end Willie Young. Detroit selected Young in the seventh round of the 2010 NFL Draft. Young did not appear in any games during his rookie season, but appeared in all 16 of Detroit's games in 2012, recording 11 tackles. Young signed a one-year deal instead of his restricted free agent tender, per Twentyman.

Additionally, five Lions either signed restricted free agent or exclusive rights tenders on Monday. Lions offensive tackle Jason Fox signed his restricted free agent tender, while running back Joique Bell, fullback Shaun Chapas, wide receiver Kris Durham and safety Ricardo Silva all signed exclusive rights tenders.


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Jason Fox signs RFA tender as Lions start offseason workouts today

Jason Fox isn’t wasting any time in his bid to win a starting tackle job with the Lions.

Fox, one of the Lions’ two restricted free agents, signed his one-year tender offer today and is taking part in the team’s first day of off-season workouts.

A fourth-round pick out of Miami (Fla.) in 2010, Fox is expected to contend for one of two vacant tackle jobs after the Lions let Gosder Cherilus walk in free agency and Jeff Backus retired.

Fox has played sparingly in his three seasons as a Lion, filling in at right tackle for one half of one game as a rookie. He missed part of his first two seasons with foot and knee injuries, and was the Lions’ No. 4 offensive tackle for most of last year.

With Cherilus and Backus gone, the Lions are debating how best to fill out their offensive line.

Fox can play either tackle position, Corey Hilliard and last year's first-round pick Riley Reiff also are candidates to start at tackle, and the Lions could draft an offensive lineman with the No. 5 overall pick.

Reiff also can play right guard, which is open after Stephen Peterman was released in February.

The Lions made qualifying offers to both Fox and defensive end Willie Young before the start of free agency last month. Young, who the Lions hope will help fill the loss of Cliff Avril, also is expected to sign his tender.

Exclusive rights free agent Joique Bell tweeted Sunday that he'll report for off-season workouts today. He and fellow ERFA tenders Ricardo Silva, Kris Durham and Shaun Chapas also signed their tenders today.


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Matthew Stafford, Lions progressing on new contract?

Aaron Rodgers is expected to become the NFL's highest-paid player, perhaps as soon as this week.

Once the Green Bay Packers quarterback signs, the next signal-caller to land a mega-contract more than $100 million likely will be Matthew Stafford.

Contract talks between Stafford and the Detroit Lions are "starting to simmer now," the Detroit Free Press reported Sunday, and it's "just a matter of time" before an agreement is reached.

Stafford still has two years left on his six-year, $72 million rookie contract, but his salary-cap hit is scheduled to be roughly $20 million this year and next. A new contract will will free up cap space while ensuring that Stafford and wide receiver Calvin Johnson remain together for at least the next half-decade.

Although Stafford is coming off a disappointing 2012 season, the Lions realize he's one of the best young-arm talents in the NFL. He's averaged more than 5,000 yards while leading the NFL in attempts the past two years. Stafford is beginning to take on a leadership role, as well, entering his fifth season.

"There is not a guy that's done more for this franchise in this offseason than Matthew Stafford," Lions president Tom Lewand said last week. "The guy's been in the building every day. He's been living here the entire offseason. He's been working out, he's helped us recruit free agents, he's been involved on a daily basis in trying to get ready for the season, and he would do anything to help us be successful."

Stafford won't get paid as much as Rodgers will, but he and the Atlanta Falcons' Matt Ryan each have a shot at bettering quarterback Joe Flacco's record-breaking contract with the Baltimore Ravens.

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Lots of contract news today...

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Detroit Lions sign Willie Young, Brian Robiskie to 1-year deals

The Detroit Lions made a handful on Monday, including the re-signing of wide receiver Brian Robiskie and defensive end Willie Young to one-year deals, according to Tim Twentyman.
Detroit released Robiskie last week, but decided to bring the former second-round pick back to Detroit. The Lions signed Robiskie last offseason, but the former Ohio State receiver failed to make an impact. Appearing in just six games, Robiskie had four receptions on six targets, for 44 yards an a touchdown.

Cleveland selected Robiskie in the second round of the 2009 NFL Draft, but the Browns let him go after the 2011 season. Robiskie will fight for a roster spot during training camp.

The Lions also re-signed defensive end Willie Young. Detroit selected Young in the seventh round of the 2010 NFL Draft. Young did not appear in any games during his rookie season, but appeared in all 16 of Detroit's games in 2012, recording 11 tackles. Young signed a one-year deal instead of his restricted free agent tender, per Twentyman.

Additionally, five Lions either signed restricted free agent or exclusive rights tenders on Monday. Lions offensive tackle Jason Fox signed his restricted free agent tender, while running back Joique Bell, fullback Shaun Chapas, wide receiver Kris Durham and safety Ricardo Silva all signed exclusive rights tenders.


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Jason Fox signs RFA tender as Lions start offseason workouts today

Jason Fox isn’t wasting any time in his bid to win a starting tackle job with the Lions.

Fox, one of the Lions’ two restricted free agents, signed his one-year tender offer today and is taking part in the team’s first day of off-season workouts.

A fourth-round pick out of Miami (Fla.) in 2010, Fox is expected to contend for one of two vacant tackle jobs after the Lions let Gosder Cherilus walk in free agency and Jeff Backus retired.

Fox has played sparingly in his three seasons as a Lion, filling in at right tackle for one half of one game as a rookie. He missed part of his first two seasons with foot and knee injuries, and was the Lions’ No. 4 offensive tackle for most of last year.

With Cherilus and Backus gone, the Lions are debating how best to fill out their offensive line.

Fox can play either tackle position, Corey Hilliard and last year's first-round pick Riley Reiff also are candidates to start at tackle, and the Lions could draft an offensive lineman with the No. 5 overall pick.

Reiff also can play right guard, which is open after Stephen Peterman was released in February.

The Lions made qualifying offers to both Fox and defensive end Willie Young before the start of free agency last month. Young, who the Lions hope will help fill the loss of Cliff Avril, also is expected to sign his tender.

Exclusive rights free agent Joique Bell tweeted Sunday that he'll report for off-season workouts today. He and fellow ERFA tenders Ricardo Silva, Kris Durham and Shaun Chapas also signed their tenders today.


NFL.com wrote:
Matthew Stafford, Lions progressing on new contract?

Aaron Rodgers is expected to become the NFL's highest-paid player, perhaps as soon as this week.

Once the Green Bay Packers quarterback signs, the next signal-caller to land a mega-contract more than $100 million likely will be Matthew Stafford.

Contract talks between Stafford and the Detroit Lions are "starting to simmer now," the Detroit Free Press reported Sunday, and it's "just a matter of time" before an agreement is reached.

Stafford still has two years left on his six-year, $72 million rookie contract, but his salary-cap hit is scheduled to be roughly $20 million this year and next. A new contract will will free up cap space while ensuring that Stafford and wide receiver Calvin Johnson remain together for at least the next half-decade.

Although Stafford is coming off a disappointing 2012 season, the Lions realize he's one of the best young-arm talents in the NFL. He's averaged more than 5,000 yards while leading the NFL in attempts the past two years. Stafford is beginning to take on a leadership role, as well, entering his fifth season.

"There is not a guy that's done more for this franchise in this offseason than Matthew Stafford," Lions president Tom Lewand said last week. "The guy's been in the building every day. He's been living here the entire offseason. He's been working out, he's helped us recruit free agents, he's been involved on a daily basis in trying to get ready for the season, and he would do anything to help us be successful."

Stafford won't get paid as much as Rodgers will, but he and the Atlanta Falcons' Matt Ryan each have a shot at bettering quarterback Joe Flacco's record-breaking contract with the Baltimore Ravens.


Personally wondering what the heck is going on with Willie Young's deal. Why would we give him a 1 year deal after the RFA tender? I could see a multi-year deal. If he wouldn't sign the RFA deal and we gave him any sort of raise, that's ridiculous.

This line is true, but concerning "Stafford won't get paid as much as Rodgers will, but he and the Atlanta Falcons' Matt Ryan each have a shot at bettering quarterback Joe Flacco's record-breaking contract with the Baltimore Ravens." Stafford doesn't deserve a "Flacco" type of deal, but it's in line with what I told you guys would happen if we do sign him to an extension.


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Same thoughts. Curious about Youngs c0ontract, hoping its less than the 2mil and that's why we went without the RFA clause (maybe a little trickeration to keep others teams away), but if its more mayhew should be embarrassed. If Young can extor money out of us after proving NOTHING in his time here, that's sad.

And Stafford shouldn't get any more than 75-80% of Flaccos deal (if that), at best, but he probably will., :/


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Same thoughts. Curious about Youngs c0ontract, hoping its less than the 2mil and that's why we went without the RFA clause (maybe a little trickeration to keep others teams away), but if its more mayhew should be embarrassed. If Young can extor money out of us after proving NOTHING in his time here, that's sad.

And Stafford shouldn't get any more than 75-80% of Flaccos deal (if that), at best, but he probably will., :/


Like I said to all of those people that said that Stafford could "re-sign for $10 mill per year and save us a ton of money," we have $40 million in current guaranteed money (or quasi guaranteed money) that is owed to Stafford due to Mayhew kicking the can down the road, and that money will need to be "baked into" Stafford's new deal. 80% of Flacco's money, + $40 mill...


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Personally wondering what the heck is going on with Willie Young's deal. Why would we give him a 1 year deal after the RFA tender? I could see a multi-year deal. If he wouldn't sign the RFA deal and we gave him any sort of raise, that's ridiculous.


Confirmed today we signed him for less. Sorry not to give you more ammo.

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Detroit Lions re-sign Willie Young for less than restricted free agent tender
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on April 16, 2013 at 12:50 PM

ALLEN PARK -- According to a Detroit Free Press report, the Detroit Lions re-signed defensive end Willie Young to a one-year deal for $1.5 million. That's significantly less than the second-round tender ($2.023 million) the Lions placed on Young as a restricted free agent earlier this offseason.

Appearances suggest the Lions withdrew Young's tender. It makes sense considering the depressed market for free agent defensive ends.

Cliff Avril, the former Lion who many analysts considered the best pass-rusher available, experienced the league's lack of demand firsthand when he was only able to secure a two-year deal worth $13 million.

Young's decision to change agents also could have contributed to the lower contract. He severed ties with Gregory Williams, who represented him since he was drafted by the Lions in the seventh round in 2010.

When contacted during the early stages of free agency, the NFLPA offices did not have information for Young's new agent on file. They currently list his representation as Joel Segal of Lagardere Unlimited.

Upon reading the news of Young's contract numbers, DEC Management agent David Canton tweeted, "Guess he should have hired me when he had the chance."

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