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It really wouldn't bother me if they lose out on Lojack. Lojack adds nothing but run defense to the dline and there are always other similar DEs available into the season as free agents. After last season Mayhew said that they had a team of players that did things ok, but lacked playmakers and Lojack is a shinning example of that. The Vikings want him to be their 4th DE, he's easy to replace.


IMO Young is easier to replace and is less important to this team than LoJack is.




I think it's a wash, neither stood out last season. But Young may have the potential to improve. Don't feel that way about Lojack.


April 22nd, 2013, 4:54 pm
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Agree LoJacks talent isn't that hard to replace, but his familiarity with the system is. Hes a consistent player who has been here for years and we know what we are going to get out of him. hes a good 2 Down DE at 3rd/4th guy, and Id rather have him there than a 6th-7th round pick learning the system unless that pick is Gholston.


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liontrax wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
rao wrote:
It really wouldn't bother me if they lose out on Lojack. Lojack adds nothing but run defense to the dline and there are always other similar DEs available into the season as free agents. After last season Mayhew said that they had a team of players that did things ok, but lacked playmakers and Lojack is a shinning example of that. The Vikings want him to be their 4th DE, he's easy to replace.


IMO Young is easier to replace and is less important to this team than LoJack is.




I think it's a wash, neither stood out last season. But Young may have the potential to improve. Don't feel that way about Lojack.


Why the hell does one have the ability to improve and one doesn't? Do you realize that they are less than 45 days apart in age?

LoJack has 19.5 career sacks, Willie Young has 3. How you guys justify this crap is beyond me.


April 22nd, 2013, 5:09 pm
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wjb21ndtown wrote:
liontrax wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
rao wrote:
It really wouldn't bother me if they lose out on Lojack. Lojack adds nothing but run defense to the dline and there are always other similar DEs available into the season as free agents. After last season Mayhew said that they had a team of players that did things ok, but lacked playmakers and Lojack is a shinning example of that. The Vikings want him to be their 4th DE, he's easy to replace.


IMO Young is easier to replace and is less important to this team than LoJack is.




I think it's a wash, neither stood out last season. But Young may have the potential to improve. Don't feel that way about Lojack.


Why the hell does one have the ability to improve and one doesn't? Do you realize that they are less than 45 days apart in age?

LoJack has 19.5 career sacks, Willie Young has 3. How you guys justify this crap is beyond me.


Years in the league, wjb. More years equals more experience. LoJack has more experience, thus his potential for improvement based on gaining experience is limited. Willie Young might be able to improve more simply based on gaining more playing experience and learning. Physically, the two aren't going to make any great strides from where they are now.

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m2karateman wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
liontrax wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
rao wrote:
It really wouldn't bother me if they lose out on Lojack. Lojack adds nothing but run defense to the dline and there are always other similar DEs available into the season as free agents. After last season Mayhew said that they had a team of players that did things ok, but lacked playmakers and Lojack is a shinning example of that. The Vikings want him to be their 4th DE, he's easy to replace.


IMO Young is easier to replace and is less important to this team than LoJack is.




I think it's a wash, neither stood out last season. But Young may have the potential to improve. Don't feel that way about Lojack.


Why the hell does one have the ability to improve and one doesn't? Do you realize that they are less than 45 days apart in age?

LoJack has 19.5 career sacks, Willie Young has 3. How you guys justify this crap is beyond me.


Years in the league, wjb. More years equals more experience. LoJack has more experience, thus his potential for improvement based on gaining experience is limited. Willie Young might be able to improve more simply based on gaining more playing experience and learning. Physically, the two aren't going to make any great strides from where they are now.


I sort of get that, but IMO Willie Young, at best, could improve to the level of LoJack. We're "hoping" he improves to the point of being a solid backup, but we're willing to let a solid backup go in order to get that...

See where my problem is with this?


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wjb21ndtown wrote:
m2karateman wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
liontrax wrote:
wjb21ndtown wrote:
rao wrote:
It really wouldn't bother me if they lose out on Lojack. Lojack adds nothing but run defense to the dline and there are always other similar DEs available into the season as free agents. After last season Mayhew said that they had a team of players that did things ok, but lacked playmakers and Lojack is a shinning example of that. The Vikings want him to be their 4th DE, he's easy to replace.


IMO Young is easier to replace and is less important to this team than LoJack is.




I think it's a wash, neither stood out last season. But Young may have the potential to improve. Don't feel that way about Lojack.


Why the hell does one have the ability to improve and one doesn't? Do you realize that they are less than 45 days apart in age?

LoJack has 19.5 career sacks, Willie Young has 3. How you guys justify this crap is beyond me.


Years in the league, wjb. More years equals more experience. LoJack has more experience, thus his potential for improvement based on gaining experience is limited. Willie Young might be able to improve more simply based on gaining more playing experience and learning. Physically, the two aren't going to make any great strides from where they are now.


I sort of get that, but IMO Willie Young, at best, could improve to the level of LoJack. We're "hoping" he improves to the point of being a solid backup, but we're willing to let a solid backup go in order to get that...

See where my problem is with this?


I think the idea is that if Willie Young improves it will be as a pass rusher not a run defender. Where as Lojack is a run defender that can get you some coverage sacks and will need to be taken off the field on known passing downs.

At this point I would rather go into the season without either of them. We all know what they bring to the table and it isn't going to win any football games. I would much rather just go into the season with a bunch of young athletic question marks than going into the season with guys I know will add very little. At least with the young guys there is potential to surprise with a good season.


April 22nd, 2013, 10:31 pm
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I think part of the issue with Willie's struggles was the mental side of things. When Avril was holding out in camp and WY was getting a real shot at playing, he was tearing it up. Then Avril came back and WY became the forgotten man. We saw a similar thing happen to Fairley--spotty as a back-up to C. Williams, but once he got his shot, he really went for it.

Now I'm not making excuses for WY. Just like with Titus, I think part of being a professional is doing your best even if you're passed over for whatever reason. But it might explain his drop off in production. If he can get his head on straight, we might be pleasantly surprised when WY gets some 1st team reps.

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April 23rd, 2013, 9:34 am
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I think part of the issue with Willie's struggles was the mental side of things. When Avril was holding out in camp and WY was getting a real shot at playing, he was tearing it up. Then Avril came back and WY became the forgotten man. We saw a similar thing happen to Fairley--spotty as a back-up to C. Williams, but once he got his shot, he really went for it.

Now I'm not making excuses for WY. Just like with Titus, I think part of being a professional is doing your best even if you're passed over for whatever reason. But it might explain his drop off in production. If he can get his head on straight, we might be pleasantly surprised when WY gets some 1st team reps.


What a load of crap. Willie never "tore it up" in 2013, and his best year was in 2012, when he was a backup.


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wjb21ndtown wrote:
thelomasbrowns wrote:
I think part of the issue with Willie's struggles was the mental side of things. When Avril was holding out in camp and WY was getting a real shot at playing, he was tearing it up. Then Avril came back and WY became the forgotten man. We saw a similar thing happen to Fairley--spotty as a back-up to C. Williams, but once he got his shot, he really went for it.

Now I'm not making excuses for WY. Just like with Titus, I think part of being a professional is doing your best even if you're passed over for whatever reason. But it might explain his drop off in production. If he can get his head on straight, we might be pleasantly surprised when WY gets some 1st team reps.


What a load of crap. Willie never "tore it up" in 2013, and his best year was in 2012, when he was a backup.


I was talking about the preseason (which I know doesn't mean much).

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Willie Young didn't even do that much in the preseason he just managed to get a couple big plays that make it seem like he was doing great. He put up virtually no stats last season, but to be fair Lojack was atrocious also. Neither guy is a starter and if either are starting for the Lions this next season the pass rush will most likely be nonexistent.

The Lions really need to go into the season with all newly added DEs to see if they can hit the lottery because Young and Lojack have a very low ceiling that will not lead to good things.


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http://www.jsonline.com/sports/nfl-team ... 15021.html

Article about pass rushers in this draft. I hope we get one at the top of round 2


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The Detroit News wrote:
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Former Lions receiver Titus Young arrested for third time in a weekBy Josh Katzenstein
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Titus Young was arrested around 11:30 p.m. Friday in San Clemente, Calif. after police say he broke into a home on the 3700 block of Calle Casino, according to Lt. Joe Balicki of the Orange County Sheriff's Department. (Orange County Sheriff's Department)


For the third time in a week, former Lions wide receiver Titus Young is in trouble with the law.

Young was arrested around 11:30 p.m. Friday in San Clemente, Calif. After police say he broke into a home on the 3700 block of Calle Casino, according to Lt. Joe Balicki of the Orange County Sheriff's Department.

When officers arrived at the home, Young fled on foot, and after a brief pursuit, he fought with the officers, Balicki said Sunday.

"There was a brief struggle," he said. "He wanted to fight with the deputies. They ended up subduing him."

Young has been charged with burglary, assault on a police officer and resisting arrest. As of 1 p.m. Sunday, he was still in custody with bail set at $75,000.

Neither Young nor the officers were injured in the struggle, Balicki said. There was also nothing stolen from the home, according to the sheriff's department.

Young also was arrested twice in a span of less than 15 hours last Sunday in Moreno Valley, Calif. After police say he made an illegal left turn into oncoming traffic at 12:01 a.m., he was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence.

At 2:22 p.m. the same day, Young was charged with burglary after he was seen jumping the fence of an impound lot to look for his black Ford Mustang, police said.

The Lions drafted Young out of Boise State in the second round of the 2011 NFL Draft, but released him in February after numerous behavioral issues.

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From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2013 ... z2TAaqWMAA



Complete write off!! Wasted draft pick! I doubt even the CFL wants this clown now.

PS. I was going to post this in this thread... Lions place Titus Young on IR ...but now it's just another locked thread.

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LionFan57 wrote:
The Detroit News wrote:
May 12, 2013 at 1:00 am
Former Lions receiver Titus Young arrested for third time in a weekBy Josh Katzenstein
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Titus Young was arrested around 11:30 p.m. Friday in San Clemente, Calif. after police say he broke into a home on the 3700 block of Calle Casino, according to Lt. Joe Balicki of the Orange County Sheriff's Department. (Orange County Sheriff's Department)


For the third time in a week, former Lions wide receiver Titus Young is in trouble with the law.

Young was arrested around 11:30 p.m. Friday in San Clemente, Calif. After police say he broke into a home on the 3700 block of Calle Casino, according to Lt. Joe Balicki of the Orange County Sheriff's Department.

When officers arrived at the home, Young fled on foot, and after a brief pursuit, he fought with the officers, Balicki said Sunday.

"There was a brief struggle," he said. "He wanted to fight with the deputies. They ended up subduing him."

Young has been charged with burglary, assault on a police officer and resisting arrest. As of 1 p.m. Sunday, he was still in custody with bail set at $75,000.

Neither Young nor the officers were injured in the struggle, Balicki said. There was also nothing stolen from the home, according to the sheriff's department.

Young also was arrested twice in a span of less than 15 hours last Sunday in Moreno Valley, Calif. After police say he made an illegal left turn into oncoming traffic at 12:01 a.m., he was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence.

At 2:22 p.m. the same day, Young was charged with burglary after he was seen jumping the fence of an impound lot to look for his black Ford Mustang, police said.

The Lions drafted Young out of Boise State in the second round of the 2011 NFL Draft, but released him in February after numerous behavioral issues.

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From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2013 ... z2TAaqWMAA



Complete write off!! Wasted draft pick! I doubt even the CFL wants this clown now.

PS. I was going to post this in this thread... Lions place Titus Young on IR ...but now it's just another locked thread.


IMO this just confirms that the guy needs serious help. I doubt anybody could've predicted that he'd go so far off the deep end.

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thelomasbrowns wrote:
LionFan57 wrote:
The Detroit News wrote:
May 12, 2013 at 1:00 am
Former Lions receiver Titus Young arrested for third time in a weekBy Josh Katzenstein
The Detroit News



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Titus Young was arrested around 11:30 p.m. Friday in San Clemente, Calif. after police say he broke into a home on the 3700 block of Calle Casino, according to Lt. Joe Balicki of the Orange County Sheriff's Department. (Orange County Sheriff's Department)


For the third time in a week, former Lions wide receiver Titus Young is in trouble with the law.

Young was arrested around 11:30 p.m. Friday in San Clemente, Calif. After police say he broke into a home on the 3700 block of Calle Casino, according to Lt. Joe Balicki of the Orange County Sheriff's Department.

When officers arrived at the home, Young fled on foot, and after a brief pursuit, he fought with the officers, Balicki said Sunday.

"There was a brief struggle," he said. "He wanted to fight with the deputies. They ended up subduing him."

Young has been charged with burglary, assault on a police officer and resisting arrest. As of 1 p.m. Sunday, he was still in custody with bail set at $75,000.

Neither Young nor the officers were injured in the struggle, Balicki said. There was also nothing stolen from the home, according to the sheriff's department.

Young also was arrested twice in a span of less than 15 hours last Sunday in Moreno Valley, Calif. After police say he made an illegal left turn into oncoming traffic at 12:01 a.m., he was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence.

At 2:22 p.m. the same day, Young was charged with burglary after he was seen jumping the fence of an impound lot to look for his black Ford Mustang, police said.

The Lions drafted Young out of Boise State in the second round of the 2011 NFL Draft, but released him in February after numerous behavioral issues.

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From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2013 ... z2TAaqWMAA



Complete write off!! Wasted draft pick! I doubt even the CFL wants this clown now.

PS. I was going to post this in this thread... Lions place Titus Young on IR ...but now it's just another locked thread.


IMO this just confirms that the guy needs serious help. I doubt anybody could've predicted that he'd go so far off the deep end.



Dood looks like a homeless crackhead. It's a shame no one has gotten him help as of yet, and it doesn't look like he's going to get it. He needs a serious, in depth mental evaluation.


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wjb21ndtown wrote:
Dood looks like a homeless crackhead. It's a shame no one has gotten him help as of yet, and it doesn't look like he's going to get it. He needs a serious, in depth mental evaluation.
Granted I haven't been following this story closely, but what I have head/read is that people have offered help, but he doesn't want/accept it. Its about time someone 'forces' that help upon him, likely via the US prison system now. He's likely at a crossroads right now. If he gets the help he needs, he could live a 'normal' life; if he doesn't and ends up getting 'institutionalized', he'll likely be struggling for a while. I just hope he gets the help he needs and not the latter.

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