View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently July 24th, 2014, 7:02 pm



Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
 Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh 
Author Message
Modmin Dude
User avatar

Joined: December 31st, 2004, 9:55 am
Posts: 11932
Post Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
PFT wrote:
Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
Posted by Mike Florio on September 16, 2013, 9:05 AM EDT

One of the big stories from Week One could resonate deep into the season, and possibly beyond.

During Sunday’s pregame show on FOX, Jay Glazer reported that Lions teammates have concerns about defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh’s ability to play within the rules.

“Even in practice, Ndamukong gives guys the business,” Glazer said. “He’ll slam a guy’s head against the ground. He’ll stomp on a guy. He’ll take little shots at guys. And guys are concerned if he can’t control himself even in practice with us, how can he control himself against someone else’s jersey?”

While the officials and the NFL control the games, the Lions control practice. And if Suh is engaged in overly aggressive tactics against teammates in practice, the Lions need to do something about it.

That’s the dilemma for the coaching staff. Coach Jim Schwartz learned the craft in Tennessee under Jeff Fisher, where defensive players who dance on the line, and periodically throw a punch over it, were embraced.

It’s a tough balance to strike. One executive with a team known for avoiding problem players recently mused to PFT about the wisdom of having some renegades on defense.

It’s one thing to have a few chippy players. It’s another to have a guy — who’s now a captain — who wreaks havoc in practice and in games and makes himself a focal point for the wrong reasons.

In the not-too-distant future, the Lions will have to decide whether they want to keep Suh around for the long term. If they choose to give him a huge-money extension, it’ll be the ultimate endorsement of Suh’s tactics in practice and in games.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ntrol-suh/


Video of Glazer's report: http://msn.foxsports.com/video?videoid= ... epermalink

IF true, what do you think the Lions should do w/Suh?

_________________
Quote:
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right....


September 16th, 2013, 9:44 am
Profile
ST Coordinator – Danny Crossman
User avatar

Joined: March 30th, 2006, 12:48 am
Posts: 3709
Location: Davison Mi
Post Re: Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
in all of his time here, I have never heard a report about Suh saying anything like this in practice. How have we not heard about him acting like this in practice? who is it that said this.....Im suspicious.

_________________
2013 Lionbacker Fantasy Football Champion


September 16th, 2013, 9:59 am
Profile
NFL Veteran

Joined: November 28th, 2007, 12:50 pm
Posts: 1332
Location: Newport Beach, Ca
Post Re: Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
I wouldn't do anything with Suh until another coaching staff got a shot at him. I would hate to throw away talent purely because Schwartz couldn't do his job.


September 16th, 2013, 10:50 am
Profile
Modmin Dude
User avatar

Joined: December 31st, 2004, 9:55 am
Posts: 11932
Post Re: Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
rao wrote:
I wouldn't do anything with Suh until another coaching staff got a shot at him. I would hate to throw away talent purely because Schwartz couldn't do his job.
My thinking exactly; but what if this staff isn't going anywhere? Then what?

_________________
Quote:
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right....


September 16th, 2013, 10:53 am
Profile
NFL Veteran

Joined: November 28th, 2007, 12:50 pm
Posts: 1332
Location: Newport Beach, Ca
Post Re: Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
TheRealWags wrote:
rao wrote:
I wouldn't do anything with Suh until another coaching staff got a shot at him. I would hate to throw away talent purely because Schwartz couldn't do his job.
My thinking exactly; but what if this staff isn't going anywhere? Then what?


Then it's not a question at all because this staff doesn't see anything wrong.


September 16th, 2013, 11:01 am
Profile
RIP Killer
User avatar

Joined: October 20th, 2004, 4:16 pm
Posts: 9848
Location: Where ever I'm at now
Post Re: Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
I give Glazer's report absolutely NO credit whatsoever. Why?

1. He has notoriously been wrong throughout his reporting career.
2. He often quotes 'unnamed sources'
3. There have been ZERO reports of activity like this from Detroit beat writers
4. Said source is part of a team that voted Suh as a captain
5. I've never heard of any fans seeing activity like this at open practices
6. It comes on the heels of a record fine for a hit that was legal last year and did no damage to the 'victim'.

In my opinion, Glazer is simply riding the "Bash Ndamukong Suh" train with this report, and it holds no credibility whatsoever. I wouldn't believe Glazer if he told me the sun was hot, and water was wet.

_________________
Driver of the 'we need a coaching change' bandwagon. Climb aboard.


September 16th, 2013, 11:35 am
Profile
ST Coordinator – Danny Crossman
User avatar

Joined: March 30th, 2006, 12:48 am
Posts: 3709
Location: Davison Mi
Post Re: Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
m2karateman wrote:
I give Glazer's report absolutely NO credit whatsoever. Why?

1. He has notoriously been wrong throughout his reporting career.
2. He often quotes 'unnamed sources'
3. There have been ZERO reports of activity like this from Detroit beat writers
4. Said source is part of a team that voted Suh as a captain
5. I've never heard of any fans seeing activity like this at open practices
6. It comes on the heels of a record fine for a hit that was legal last year and did no damage to the 'victim'.

In my opinion, Glazer is simply riding the "Bash Ndamukong Suh" train with this report, and it holds no credibility whatsoever. I wouldn't believe Glazer if he told me the sun was hot, and water was wet.


Lets be honest here, with the mouth that Dom has, if this were going on in practice to one of his linemen we would have heard about it.

_________________
2013 Lionbacker Fantasy Football Champion


September 16th, 2013, 11:40 am
Profile
Modmin Dude
User avatar

Joined: December 31st, 2004, 9:55 am
Posts: 11932
Post Re: Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
Freep wrote:
Detroit Lions' Jim Schwartz denies report saying Ndamukong Suh's practice behavior is an issue
3:03 PM, September 16, 2013

Detroit Lions coach Jim Schwartz strongly denied a Fox Sports report that Ndamukong Suh has been a menace to teammates in practice, occasionally stomping players and even slamming their heads to the ground.

“I can say unequivocally he has never slammed anybody’s head to the ground or stomped on anybody,” Schwartz said at his press conference today. “That’s just inflammatory stuff, it gets headlines and it gets reaction. But I would bet that you guys would have reported that long before a guy that’s never been to one of our practices reports it.”

On Fox’s pregame show Sunday, NFL insider Jay Glazer cited “people inside Detroit” in saying that Suh’s practice behavior has been an issue.

“Ndamukong gives guys the business,” Glazer said. “He’ll slam a guy’s head against the ground, he’ll stomp on a guy, he’ll take little shots at guys, and guys are concerned that if he can’t control himself even in practice, how can he control himself against somebody else’s jersey?”

A team source said Suh’s practice etiquette has not been an issue at all this year, but there were times he tended to get too rough in the past.

In defending Suh, Schwartz seemed to keep his comments to this season, too, pointing out that the Lions kept practices open for the entire preseason, not just the first three weeks of training camp like NFL rules allow.

During the season, reporters are allowed to watch just the first 30 minutes of practice which entails stretching and position drills, and in-season practices are typically less physical than training-camp workouts.

The Lions have had just one practice in shoulder pads each of the last two weeks.

“All I can tell you is you guys saw all our practices and unequivocally I think that’s off base,” Schwartz said. “He’s done a very good job of in practice working around the quarterback. He had probably one time in all of training camp that he ended up in a power rush and put a lineman back into a quarterback, which is something we try to avoid as best we can. But he had one and that’s probably the least amount of all our defensive linemen.

“It’s a tough situation when you tell him to rush the passer but also don’t hit the quarterback, stay off of the quarterback. I think he’s done a very good job in practice of working through that and doing that. Like I said, I’ll just leave it to you guys. You saw them all.”

Suh came under fire last week after he was fined $100,000 for a low block on Minnesota Vikings center John Sullivan during an interception return, but he’s been dominant on the field during the Lions’ 1-1 start.

He had two tackles for loss and two quarterback hits in Sunday’s 25-21 loss to the Arizona Cardinals and forced an interception with a quarterback pressure for the second straight week.

“Particularly against the inside run he was very hard to handle (on Sunday), and if (Carson) Palmer hadn’t thrown as quick as he threw, he would have looked different as far as sacks,” Schwartz said. “You can’t really read the stat sheet and know how effective a particular player was. The interception that Tulloch made last week was directly responsible to Ndamukong Suh. (DeAndre) Levy’s interception was directly responsible to Suh. … He’s done a really nice job.”

■ Cheap shot? Deadspin posted a video this afternoon of Cardinals guard Paul Fanaika “taking a blatant cheap shot” at Suh on Sunday. “It's unlikely that very many people noticed this play when it happened, but this may be a sign that Suh's colleagues have grown tired of his dirty antics,” Deadspin’s Tom Ley writes.

Contact Dave Birkett: dbirkett@freepress.com. Follow him on Twitter @davebirkett.

Join us at 4 p.m. today to talk Lions football in Freep Sports Happy Hour!

http://www.freep.com/article/20130916/S ... 1049/rss14

_________________
Quote:
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right....


September 16th, 2013, 3:42 pm
Profile
Junior Varsity
User avatar

Joined: October 23rd, 2005, 11:58 am
Posts: 176
Location: Dartmouth
Post Re: Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
As Suh was picked to be one of the captains by his teammates, it does seem that the report is just trying to fan the flames.
As per his comments at that time :

Quote:
I'd be lying to you if I didn't say (I wanted to be a captain)," he (Suh) said. "Anybody in any situation of mine ... it's always really something prideful that you can take. Something that's an honor.

"Something that you can appreciate that your teammates, in essence, look up to you and they want you to lead them."

_________________
I was at this casino minding my own business, and this guy came up to me and said, "You're gonna have to move, you're blocking a fire exit." As though if there was a fire, I wasn't gonna run. If you're flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit


September 16th, 2013, 4:19 pm
Profile
Team MVP
User avatar

Joined: February 20th, 2007, 10:51 pm
Posts: 3305
Location: Saginaw, MI
Post Re: Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
regularjoe12 wrote:
m2karateman wrote:
I give Glazer's report absolutely NO credit whatsoever. Why?

1. He has notoriously been wrong throughout his reporting career.
2. He often quotes 'unnamed sources'
3. There have been ZERO reports of activity like this from Detroit beat writers
4. Said source is part of a team that voted Suh as a captain
5. I've never heard of any fans seeing activity like this at open practices
6. It comes on the heels of a record fine for a hit that was legal last year and did no damage to the 'victim'.

In my opinion, Glazer is simply riding the "Bash Ndamukong Suh" train with this report, and it holds no credibility whatsoever. I wouldn't believe Glazer if he told me the sun was hot, and water was wet.


Lets be honest here, with the mouth that Dom has, if this were going on in practice to one of his linemen we would have heard about it.


This.

_________________
April 22nd, 2010 @ 7:44p.m. "The Detroit Lions select...Ndamukong Suh". Those are some beautiful words.


Lionbacker2 Fantasy Champion 2011


September 17th, 2013, 2:20 am
Profile
RIP Killer
User avatar

Joined: January 26th, 2005, 9:34 pm
Posts: 10286
Location: Sycamore, IL
Post Re: Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
m2karateman wrote:
I give Glazer's report absolutely NO credit whatsoever. Why?

1. He has notoriously been wrong throughout his reporting career.
2. He often quotes 'unnamed sources'
3. There have been ZERO reports of activity like this from Detroit beat writers
4. Said source is part of a team that voted Suh as a captain
5. I've never heard of any fans seeing activity like this at open practices
6. It comes on the heels of a record fine for a hit that was legal last year and did no damage to the 'victim'.

In my opinion, Glazer is simply riding the "Bash Ndamukong Suh" train with this report, and it holds no credibility whatsoever. I wouldn't believe Glazer if he told me the sun was hot, and water was wet.


Winner winner chicken dinner

_________________
_____
I have no faith this team will win a game the rest of the year. The kitties finish at 7-9 and Miss the playoffs as GB wins out and takes it from the kitties.
Image


September 17th, 2013, 9:10 am
Profile
Walk On

Joined: September 11th, 2010, 10:19 pm
Posts: 408
Post Re: Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumo ... ref=fromSI

Loose cannon.


September 17th, 2013, 9:21 am
Profile
QB Coach
User avatar

Joined: August 21st, 2005, 3:36 am
Posts: 3107
Location: London, UK
Post Re: Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
I.E. wrote:
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/400251-suh-threatened-cable-guy-with-a-pellet-gun?eref=fromSI

Loose cannon.

Just as I posted on thread where you posted this, Suh has already been cleared on this. You're about a week behind.
http://www.freep.com/article/20130911/SPORTS01/309110133/ndamukong-suh-birmingham-police-gun-detroit-lions

_________________
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams

http://www.11points.com/Books/11_Things ... _Do_Anyway

LET'S GO DUKE!

If you don't like gay marriage, don't get one.


September 17th, 2013, 9:25 am
Profile
Hall of Fame Player
User avatar

Joined: April 5th, 2005, 7:03 am
Posts: 7411
Location: Ford Field - 35 yard line / Row 32
Post Re: Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
TheRealWags wrote:
PFT wrote:
Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
Posted by Mike Florio on September 16, 2013, 9:05 AM EDT

One of the big stories from Week One could resonate deep into the season, and possibly beyond.

During Sunday’s pregame show on FOX, Jay Glazer reported that Lions teammates have concerns about defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh’s ability to play within the rules.

“Even in practice, Ndamukong gives guys the business,” Glazer said. “He’ll slam a guy’s head against the ground. He’ll stomp on a guy. He’ll take little shots at guys. And guys are concerned if he can’t control himself even in practice with us, how can he control himself against someone else’s jersey?”

While the officials and the NFL control the games, the Lions control practice. And if Suh is engaged in overly aggressive tactics against teammates in practice, the Lions need to do something about it.

That’s the dilemma for the coaching staff. Coach Jim Schwartz learned the craft in Tennessee under Jeff Fisher, where defensive players who dance on the line, and periodically throw a punch over it, were embraced.

It’s a tough balance to strike. One executive with a team known for avoiding problem players recently mused to PFT about the wisdom of having some renegades on defense.

It’s one thing to have a few chippy players. It’s another to have a guy — who’s now a captain — who wreaks havoc in practice and in games and makes himself a focal point for the wrong reasons.

In the not-too-distant future, the Lions will have to decide whether they want to keep Suh around for the long term. If they choose to give him a huge-money extension, it’ll be the ultimate endorsement of Suh’s tactics in practice and in games.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ntrol-suh/


Video of Glazer's report: http://msn.foxsports.com/video?videoid= ... epermalink

IF true, what do you think the Lions should do w/Suh?


Complete nonsense! I'm not buying a word of this when our local beat guys have said nothing like this ever.

_________________
Image


September 17th, 2013, 10:12 am
Profile WWW
Modmin Dude
User avatar

Joined: December 31st, 2004, 9:55 am
Posts: 11932
Post Re: Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
LionFan57 wrote:
TheRealWags wrote:
PFT wrote:
Report: Teammates not sure how to control Suh
Posted by Mike Florio on September 16, 2013, 9:05 AM EDT

One of the big stories from Week One could resonate deep into the season, and possibly beyond.

During Sunday’s pregame show on FOX, Jay Glazer reported that Lions teammates have concerns about defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh’s ability to play within the rules.

“Even in practice, Ndamukong gives guys the business,” Glazer said. “He’ll slam a guy’s head against the ground. He’ll stomp on a guy. He’ll take little shots at guys. And guys are concerned if he can’t control himself even in practice with us, how can he control himself against someone else’s jersey?”

While the officials and the NFL control the games, the Lions control practice. And if Suh is engaged in overly aggressive tactics against teammates in practice, the Lions need to do something about it.

That’s the dilemma for the coaching staff. Coach Jim Schwartz learned the craft in Tennessee under Jeff Fisher, where defensive players who dance on the line, and periodically throw a punch over it, were embraced.

It’s a tough balance to strike. One executive with a team known for avoiding problem players recently mused to PFT about the wisdom of having some renegades on defense.

It’s one thing to have a few chippy players. It’s another to have a guy — who’s now a captain — who wreaks havoc in practice and in games and makes himself a focal point for the wrong reasons.

In the not-too-distant future, the Lions will have to decide whether they want to keep Suh around for the long term. If they choose to give him a huge-money extension, it’ll be the ultimate endorsement of Suh’s tactics in practice and in games.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ntrol-suh/
Video of Glazer's report: http://msn.foxsports.com/video?videoid= ... epermalink

IF true, what do you think the Lions should do w/Suh?
Complete nonsense! I'm not buying a word of this when our local beat guys have said nothing like this ever.
Like the local beat guys would dig into something like this; IMO not since Killer has there been a beat guy that digs deep and trys to find the answers. That said, from the Freep article I posted above, apparently this has been an issue in the past:
Quote:
A team source said Suh’s practice etiquette has not been an issue at all this year, but there were times he tended to get too rough in the past.

_________________
Quote:
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right....


September 17th, 2013, 10:25 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: DJ-B, frok, Google [Bot] and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by STSoftware.