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Another key stat was holding Forte to 1.9 yards per carry and 33 yards. They didn't have that one big run play they've given up every week up until now.


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We've come a long way when the QB of the Lions, threw 3 TDs, beat the Bears in Chicago and had a "bad day". Megatron had an off day as well with just 83 yards and 2 scores.

It turned out to be a defensive struggle, who knew... The Lions showed they can win that way too punishing Cutler all day and holding Forte in check. They stuck with the run when it wasn't doing so much. Seemed like a lot of penalties, just 5 but they were big.

Win in Chicago and all alone in first play after 9 games, heck I'll take that.

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Nick Fairley Closes Out the Bears
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The Bears had an opportunity to extend this game and send it into overtime versus the Lions at Soldier Field. But after a suspect call (and personnel grouping) on their first two-point attempt, Marc Trestman’s team was bailed out by a Lions personal-foul penalty and given a second chance to tie this one up.

Here’s a look at the inside zone scheme that was shut down by Fairley to close out the win for the Lions. Let’s talk about the scheme and focus on the defensive tackle’s burst off the ball to eliminate the play.

Lions vs. Bears

Personnel: 11 (3WR-1TE-1RB)

Formation: Doubles Slot Gun Near

Offensive Concept: Inside Zone

Defensive Scheme: Cover 1


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The Bears have 11 personnel on the field with Brandon Marshall in a nasty (or reduced) split to the backside of the formation (crack block alignment). With Matt Forte offset to the closed side, the Bears run the inside zone—one of their top schemes out of the gun. Give Forte the option to press the open side of the formation or cut this ball back based on the defensive pursuit with zone blocking up front.

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Center Roberto Garza has to “reach” block Fairley (scoop technique to outside shoulder) and eliminate any inside penetration. However, because of Fairley’s quickness and burst off the ball, the defensive tackle gets on the edge of Garza. That allows Fairley to get vertical to the point of attack in the backfield.

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This is a heck of a play from Fairley. He eliminates the reach block at the snap, penetrates the line of scrimmage and wrecks the two-point attempt from the Bears to get the win. Impressive stuff.

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we neeed to send a thank you letter to Cutler and the Bears coaching staff. If they would have recognized that Cutler was injured beyond the point of usefulness in the 2nd half, our Lions probably come home with a loss instead of a win. WR's for Chicago were open all day, Cutler couldn't plant his foot and throw well at all in the 2nd half, giving us the win. I think McKown stepping in and showed how easy it was to drive the field if someone could just hit the wide open guys on the field.

We dodged a bullet on this one, but hey, a win is a win. Sometimes its better to be lucky than good ;)

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This is crazy:


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This is crazy:



We also already have 6 more wins than we did in 2008!

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Stafford had probably one of his worst games and this was his first win in Soldier field. I think sometimes people underestimate how much different our offense performs on a crappy field like Soldier field as compared to home on the turf. Even next week in Pittsburg will be a better output by the offense.


there were 5 clear drops. fauria misplayed his jumpball into the end zone which was well thrown and should ve been a td, no big deal bc Megatron scored the TD next play. the bad play was the overthrow to calvin and a couple of miscommunicatons though maybe with the personnel changes from WR2-5 this season its to be expected. given the time he had to throw, one would think stafford would be capable of shredding the bears to pieces. that didnt happen but i wouldnt call it a bad game.

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Durham is playing like a real #2, which is going to be big once Burleson comes back. Ross did ok, but him and Ogletree aren't Nate.


Durham's doing a lot better no doubt but real #2? i didnt see that this game.

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Was this a pretty and dominant win? Absolutely not. Our defense had issues at time, but they're the ones that roughed up Cutler again. He didn't reinjure the groin and ankle on his own. We forced him out and if he tweaked that groin, he could be out another couple of weeks giving us a cushion in the division.


Suh and Fairley are dominating and WIllie Young is doing better than most expectations but they do miss Cliff Avril, his speed and ability to finish plays with sacks and force fumbles. Granted some of what he did was clean up plays created by others - the Lions dont have that factor anymore. Given the cost difference bw Avril and Young, Im not complaining about what transpired in the offseason but this team would be better with a speed rusher at DE. I like Ansah and Taylor is doing better but Avril has left a void.

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GB's loss gave us a 1 game lead and a chance to keep it on thanksgiving, Rodgers or not. Wallace is now out with a groin, so it's on the lions to hold onto the top spot.


Tolzien didnt play badly for them. More than anything, I think the Pack are demoralized right now. Would like to see the Lions beat them with Rodgers rather than skirting by and running into a buzzsaw in the playoffs. Need to beat a good team at full strength at some point in the 2nd half especially with the weak schedule.

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Arizona and Carolina won, moving Carolina into the 5th spot, and SF into the 6th. That 6th spot is going to be a battle. If the season ended today, we'd be hosting SF in the first round. Would be nice if someone knocked them off, but I'd rather face them here regardless.


I can see the Bears still in competition for that spot as well. they made need to get a couple more games out of McCown, he can do some of the same things as Cutler and is a good backup for him bc it doesnt change too much for the rest of that team. surprised they didnt go to him earlier or just kept cutler down another week or two


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m2k - we all know the Lions will do nothing about the personal fouls.


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Grades/Game Review

QB - Stafford s biggest mistake was sailing a throw into zone coverage over a open Calvin Johnson for an INT. He also had several passes batted down at the LOS though he appeared to be using his sidearm or 3/4 delivery to find a window to throw into. Mostly those were heads up plays by DLmen. There was a 2nd down play on the Lions last TD drive when the Lions were trying to eat up clock where Stafford bought some time with a scramble/roll to his right and could ve kept the clock rolling by scrambling for no or minimal gain but instead threw the ball away stopping the clock. Also a couple plays where appeared to have mistiming/route issues with WRs but he made the throws when they needed them the most in the red zone, tone setting drive to start the 2nd half and in the 4th quarter. B

TB - Bush dropped a ball on a perfectly set up screen and missed another for a big gain as well. He ran better up the middle, committing to taking what was there as opposed to always looking for the cutback like he s done in other games. Joique Bell stepped up and had a solid 10 carries after seeing his usage decrease with a rib injury. He also recovered the onside kick at the end of the game. Liked the way both guys ran the ball. Bummer for Montell Owens re injuring the knee. I guess we ll never know exactly what the Lions plans were for him. When he was signed it was supposedly as a ST player but they appeared to be using him as a FB or 2nd TB early in the game. May not matter for the team much bc Bell has been a very good short yardage runner and Martin has limited ST returns with his kicks and punts alone. A-

WR - Too many miscommunications/mistimings with the 2-5 guys with Stafford. Durham did grab the TD and Ross' catch was an important one but they need to continue to develop rapport with these guys. It ll be nice to get Burleson back but hopefully its not at the expense of developing Durham, Ross, or Ogletree to be important factors later in the season. Calvin with a couple of drops and also maybe an opportunity or two where he might be able to wrestle the ball away from guys. C+

TE - Pettigrew with a couple of key blocks and key catches. He had a nice game overall. Fauria misplayed a goalline jumpball by hand fighting with a smaller DB for too long and never making a real play on the ball and then later got a bad 15 yard penalty causing an important drive to end up with a missed FG. it was a pretty awful play by Fauria not sure I ve seen that play before with the stiff arm to facemask for 6-7 yards by a guy running a route. Pettigrew A, Fauria D+

OL - Raiola was struggling badly early in the game getting blown up by Paea but then managed to hold his own and use Paea's aggressiveness against him later in the game. I dont know if it was an adjustment by Raiola or if Paea was getting overconfident but Raiola ended up having the better day. Reiff had one of his better games of the season although it helps not having to go against Peppers. Warford had another big game esp at the point of attack on runs as did Waddle who was really stellar going against the Bears rookie end most of the game. Clearly overmatched him. As a group they played well together as well, no miscommunications and able to keep Stafford protected all game and open holes in the run game. A

DL - Tons of pressure all game. Suh was dominant all game and Fairley was even more dominant late in the game. WIllie Young was doing a nice job as well. Taylor and Idonije didnt generate much but held there own. Idonije was targetted by another end around/reverse but the LBs/secondary cleaned it up for him as it was run to the short side of the field. The big plays were Suh's deflection for score saving INT at the end of the 1st half and Fairley's stuff on the potentially game tying 2 point attempt. They shut down the run game and hit Cutler frequently, limiting his effectiveness later and later in the game. Would be nice to see them finish more plays but they lack the quick twitch player on the edge to clean things up and would also be nice to not give away so many free passes with personal fouls. A-

LB - Tulloch was outstanding all game both vs the run and in coverage. Anyone who thinks he s not that good is out of there minds. Levy continues to be an interesting player to me bc he seems to have lots of misplays week in and week out but comes up with a lot of signature big plays. He was mostly bad/lost/slow to react in coverage this week but able to pick up Suh's batted pass for a scoring threat ending INT in the end zone at the end of the first half. Not sure why everyone made him stay in the end zone for the touchback in that situation though, looked like he had a shot at a return. Ashlee Palmer in limited snaps looked good and Rocky McIntosh didnt play much but was huge stuffing a 4th and 1 run when Chicago was in scoring position and then covering Matt Forte on the first 2 pt conversion attempt. Grade: A

DB - Houston seems to have picked it up and is hopefully back to his old self now after some injury issues. He was solid in coverage and also made a couple nice plays vs the run. Don Carey was the McIntosh of the secondary with a solid job in coverage covering the slot and making some tough tackles to stop ballcarriers and receivers short of the sticks. Slay was picked apart but Marshall is a tough cover for anyone. I think the Lions staff was particularly upset bc Slay gave Marshall position in front of him in the end zone for the score. Frustrating bc it wasnt anything about Marshall's speed,size or skills that led to the score but rather a bad fundamental play by Slay who athletically held his own. Mathis despite getting beat for a score stepped in for Slay on the outside and had another nice game. Delmas and Quinn were solid again. Grade: B- (maybe a better grade than most would give them but they did a good job tackling and made some nice plays in the run game)

ST - Akers missed the kick from less than 50 yards and there was a bad snap to Martin. Martin continues to do a nice job limiting returns which was a concern with Hester suiting up for the Bears. We didnt make any big plays really in the return game but Spurlock did have one decent kick return. Bell recovered the onside kick for the hands team to ice the game, coming up and fielding the ball short of 10 yards. Grade: B+ (not letting hester get anything is an accomplishment)

Coaching - I really really liked the aggressiveness later in the game. A year ago Schwartz makes Linehan go conservative with the lead and the Bears win this game with a go ahead FG or TD but Schwartz let Linehan go after the defense and Stafford made some big throws on the last drive to put us up by 8. It helped that the run game was working there also with 2 1st down runs by Bush to keep the clock rolling and drive into position. Defensively Cunningham's unit despite giving up some drives forced FGs, stuffed a 4th and 1, got an end zone INT and were ready to stuff two 2 pt conversion attempts. More importantly, they werent afraid to put role players like Rocky McIntosh and Don Carey into key positions to help win this game. The biggest knock would be the clock management at the end of the first half. The Bears got into a 1st and goal situation with just under 2 minutes to play and the Lions didnt use there timeouts to leave time on the clock to get the ball back. Regardless of what happens there the clock is not the Bears enemy in that situation and the Lions have a good 2 minute offense with jumbo receivers that are worth throwing a hail mary to if you can even just get the ball close to midfield. As it turned out the Bears milked some clock before throwing an INT in the end zone on 2nd down. Great stand by the Lions but realistically they Lions could ve had 1:30 on the clock and a timeout to work with to get another scoring opportunity but instead settled for running the last 30 seconds off the clock. A-


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DETROIT AT CHICAGO

Score: Lions 21, Bears 19

Time: 40 seconds left in the fourth quarter

Situation: second two-point attempt for the Bears

Result: Failed conversion when Lions DT Nick Fairley tackled Bears RB Matt Forte with what would have been a 4-yard loss

Bears personnel: “11” or posse (one back, one tight, three receivers)

Lions personnel: Nickel (five defensive backs)

What happened: Handed another chance after a roughing-the-passer penalty by DE Willie Young on the first, failed, two-point attempt, Bears coach Marc Trestman gave backup quarterback Josh McCown a run/pass option depending on how the defense lined up. With just four defenders to the left of center—and four Bears, including receiver Brandon Marshall, to block them—McCown correctly checked to the inside zone run to the left, behind center Roberto Garza (63) and left guard Matt Slauson (68).

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The most important block on this play is against Fairley (98), who is lined up on the inside shoulder of Slauson. For the play to work, Garza has to “reach block”—literally reach his left arm to Fairley’s outside shoulder—and seal him off to the inside, with Slauson taking out linebacker DeAndre Levy (54) on the second level.

“I’ve just got to make that block,” Garza told reporters after the game. “That’s all it comes down to.”

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But this is a nearly impossible block for Garza to pull off by himself given Fairley’s talent and where he is lined up. On this play, Slauson’s duty is to slow up Fairley enough to give Garza an opportunity to get the angle on Fairley, before Slauson takes the linebacker. That didn’t happen. Slauson barely touched Fairley, who probably ruined the play just by how quickly he fired up field—he was the first player on either team to react to the snap.

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Even if the Bears found a way to contain Fairley, it’s doubtful the play would have worked, because of other failed blocks. LT Jermon Bushrod didn’t finish the block against Young, Slauson didn’t slow up Levy, right guard Kyle Long got tripped trying to finish against MLB Stephen Tulloch, and Marshall didn’t execute a crack-back block against anyone. Just an all-around failure in execution, starting with an impossible reach block against Fairley.

“The defense gave us the run, we just didn’t block it. We just didn’t execute,” Trestman said. “We didn’t execute today, offensively, like we needed to, particularly in the running game. We just didn’t get it done. Matt had 17 carries today. He had a tough game. A very, very, minimal production in our run game.”


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m2k - we all know the Lions will do nothing about the personal fouls.


Which is exactly why I don't think the Lions will go far in the playoffs if they get there. While the stats may say that the Lions have the easiest schedule remaining in the NFL, I see teams that are starting to put some things together and lie in wait. Tampa Bay finally won a game, and they have a bunch of talented players on that squad, especially the defense. The Giants seemed to have woken up out of their early season funk, and the Ravens won't be a gimme either.

The Lions have to play more disciplined football, and Stafford has to throw the ball more consistently. Included in the 'disciplined football' is the receivers catching the damn ball, as well as reduction in penalties. The Lions control their own destiny, and they have to stop hurting themselves.

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m2k - totally agree with your post

UKLion - I think that play goes on Slauson or on the scheme. Really that should be a double team at the point of attack with Slauson then moving up to the second level to pick up Levy. The top priority has to be blocking Fairley and Slauson really did nothing to allow Garza to get in position there and just licked his chops to go blast Levy again. It could be they are running a zone scheme where they dont focus so much on a particular hole where the play is going to, could be poor communication by Garza not letting Slauson know that he has no shot at making that block alone, or could just be Slauson thought he didnt have enough time to help and block Levy. Great play for the Lions and nice breakdown in that post.


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m2k - totally agree with your post

UKLion - I think that play goes on Slauson or on the scheme. Really that should be a double team at the point of attack with Slauson then moving up to the second level to pick up Levy. The top priority has to be blocking Fairley and Slauson really did nothing to allow Garza to get in position there and just licked his chops to go blast Levy again. It could be they are running a zone scheme where they dont focus so much on a particular hole where the play is going to, could be poor communication by Garza not letting Slauson know that he has no shot at making that block alone, or could just be Slauson thought he didnt have enough time to help and block Levy. Great play for the Lions and nice breakdown in that post.

Yup - agree. Garza had a thankless task there.

I think that Fairley's burst there is pretty incredible, though. He's moved as far into the backfield as the right hand wide receiver has moved forwards, despite not knowing the snap count, being (slightly) blocked and being about 37x as heavy. Impressive stuff.


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UK Lion wrote:
The Legend wrote:
m2k - totally agree with your post

UKLion - I think that play goes on Slauson or on the scheme. Really that should be a double team at the point of attack with Slauson then moving up to the second level to pick up Levy. The top priority has to be blocking Fairley and Slauson really did nothing to allow Garza to get in position there and just licked his chops to go blast Levy again. It could be they are running a zone scheme where they dont focus so much on a particular hole where the play is going to, could be poor communication by Garza not letting Slauson know that he has no shot at making that block alone, or could just be Slauson thought he didnt have enough time to help and block Levy. Great play for the Lions and nice breakdown in that post.

Yup - agree. Garza had a thankless task there.

I think that Fairley's burst there is pretty incredible, though. He's moved as far into the backfield as the right hand wide receiver has moved forwards, despite not knowing the snap count, being (slightly) blocked and being about 37x as heavy. Impressive stuff.


impressive athlete, no doubt


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