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Killwill25 wrote:
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inheritedlionsfan wrote:
I know nothing about this kid. 5'9 corner? He's shorter than me.


We drafted a corner, who was slated as a 7 rounder or UFA in the 4th Rd with the size of Mighty Mouse and weakness is Press off the line. What happen with us wanting to be more physical and taking Taller Corners similar to the Seattle Model. This pick was a waist with Antone Exum on the board and other quality secondary. I'm convinced the front office is purposely sabotaging our secondary.


I wish people would watch tape and judge for themselves instead of reading a scouting report and overreacting to it.


I did watch tape and still saw nothing but average at best.

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May 10th, 2014, 2:38 pm
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Mufasa wrote:
Killwill25 wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
inheritedlionsfan wrote:
I know nothing about this kid. 5'9 corner? He's shorter than me.


We drafted a corner, who was slated as a 7 rounder or UFA in the 4th Rd with the size of Mighty Mouse and weakness is Press off the line. What happen with us wanting to be more physical and taking Taller Corners similar to the Seattle Model. This pick was a waist with Antone Exum on the board and other quality secondary. I'm convinced the front office is purposely sabotaging our secondary.


I wish people would watch tape and judge for themselves instead of reading a scouting report and overreacting to it.


I did watch tape and still saw nothing but average at best.


He's one of the better slot guys in the draft and plays ST. Played well at the Senior bowl and East West shrine game. He plays with the physicality Austin likes from his corners. He's going to push Bentley while contributing from the start.


May 10th, 2014, 2:51 pm
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rao wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
Killwill25 wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
inheritedlionsfan wrote:
I know nothing about this kid. 5'9 corner? He's shorter than me.


We drafted a corner, who was slated as a 7 rounder or UFA in the 4th Rd with the size of Mighty Mouse and weakness is Press off the line. What happen with us wanting to be more physical and taking Taller Corners similar to the Seattle Model. This pick was a waist with Antone Exum on the board and other quality secondary. I'm convinced the front office is purposely sabotaging our secondary.


I wish people would watch tape and judge for themselves instead of reading a scouting report and overreacting to it.


I did watch tape and still saw nothing but average at best.


He's one of the better slot guys in the draft and plays ST. Played well at the Senior bowl and East West shrine game. He plays with the physicality Austin likes from his corners. He's going to push Bentley while contributing from the start.


Hopefully your right.

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May 10th, 2014, 2:59 pm
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Mufasa wrote:
rao wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
Killwill25 wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
inheritedlionsfan wrote:
I know nothing about this kid. 5'9 corner? He's shorter than me.


We drafted a corner, who was slated as a 7 rounder or UFA in the 4th Rd with the size of Mighty Mouse and weakness is Press off the line. What happen with us wanting to be more physical and taking Taller Corners similar to the Seattle Model. This pick was a waist with Antone Exum on the board and other quality secondary. I'm convinced the front office is purposely sabotaging our secondary.


I wish people would watch tape and judge for themselves instead of reading a scouting report and overreacting to it.


I did watch tape and still saw nothing but average at best.


He's one of the better slot guys in the draft and plays ST. Played well at the Senior bowl and East West shrine game. He plays with the physicality Austin likes from his corners. He's going to push Bentley while contributing from the start.


Hopefully your right.


Reading his profile on NFL.com, was wondering if this pick was more for a bit of depth, but also a potential return man.

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Overview

The Kingston, Jamaica, native was a starter at cornerback and running back as a Florida prep. Also lettered as a sprinter in track. Appeared in nine games (two starts) for Utah State as a true freshman in 2010 and had 12 tackles, two pass breakups and one interception with one-half tackle for loss. Won a starting cornerback spot in 2011 and recorded 73 tackles, 11 pass breakups and one INT with one forced fumble. Started all 13 games in 2012 and recorded 63 tackles, 10 pass breakups and no INTs with four tackles for loss and two sacks. In 2013, totaled 57 tackles, 13 pass breakups and four INTs in 14 games (13 starts). Had his first career two-interception game against Boise State, returning one for a 65-yard score.
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Strengths
Muscular build with nice arm length. Plays with his eyes. Reads and reacts quickly. Has skills to man up receivers. Soft-footed with flexible hips to pedal easily and transition smoothly. Good zone awareness and reactions. Productive on the ball. Effective blitzer. Has special-teams experience as a gunner and jammer. Durable three-year starter. Has matured and taken a more professional approach as an upperclassman.
Weaknesses
Press technique needs refinement. Too often allows free release. Clutching, grabbing and incurring flags have been issues in the past. Ball skills are a work in progress. Leaves some production on the field. Inconsistent run supporter. Struggled to contain USC WR Marqise Lee.
Draft Projection
Round 7-Priority free agent
Bottom Line
Adequate-sized, talented, inconsistent cornerback with moldable tools and scheme versatility, though he requires polish and patience.

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May 10th, 2014, 3:04 pm
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Nevin Lawson | CB, Utah StateIf it weren't for Lawson's smallish frame, he may have gone as early as the second round, considering his natural coverage skill-set, and impressive athleticism. In the right role, Lawson could be a major contributor early, considering his solid fundamentals, coupled with better-than-average athleticism and coverage instincts.


May 10th, 2014, 3:11 pm
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Really like the Caraun Reid pick, but the Webster pick could be a reach. I know we need another DE, but right after we took him the Jets took Dakota Dozier - Guard from Furman. He would have been a better pick, replacement for Sims, and much higher rated than the project Webster.


May 10th, 2014, 3:18 pm
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liontrax wrote:
Really like the Caraun Reid pick, but the Webster pick could be a reach. I know we need another DE, but right after we took him the Jets took Dakota Dozier - Guard from Furman. He would have been a better pick, replacement for Sims, and much higher rated than the project Webster.


I think they want to see what they got in Swanson before they start adding more rookie depth to the oline, plus they may still like Rodney Austin.


May 10th, 2014, 3:33 pm
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liontrax wrote:
Really like the Caraun Reid pick, but the Webster pick could be a reach. I know we need another DE, but right after we took him the Jets took Dakota Dozier - Guard from Furman. He would have been a better pick, replacement for Sims, and much higher rated than the project Webster.


I know this means nothing, but this Webster kids measurables and Combine numbers are seconds apart from Jadaveon Clowney. When people make the poor man comparison, he's exactly on par with Jadaveon as a Poor Man Clowney literally. Lol!! He also have TE skills and Basketball athleticism.

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May 10th, 2014, 3:38 pm
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So, the Lions wait till their last pick and FINALLY take WR T.J. Jones of Notre Dame. It was a good pick. Was hoping for Jeff Janis.

My bad, I guess they still have a 7th rounder. QB anyone?


May 10th, 2014, 4:23 pm
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liontrax wrote:
So, the Lions wait till their last pick and FINALLY take WR T.J. Jones of Notre Dame. It was a good pick. Was hoping for Jeff Janis.


They still have a 7th they got from Dallas.

I like Jones he's a good route runner and has good hands. CBS compares him to Jason Avant which I think is one type of player the Lions are really missing in their WR corps.


May 10th, 2014, 4:31 pm
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I only have one ND game DVR'd but from what I saw in his highlights he is one of the more polished route runners I've seen in college, not quite as good as Broyles was was definitely better than most. I am concerned that if he does make the team and see the field he won't be on the field for long with his slight build. If Stafford hangs him out to dry just once that will problem be the one and only time for him.


May 10th, 2014, 5:14 pm
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Got a kicker with the last pick.

First impressions... Mayhew laid a 3 day turd.


May 10th, 2014, 10:37 pm
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Jafo wrote:
Got a kicker with the last pick.

First impressions... Mayhew laid a 3 day turd.


I will have to find some tape on the internet, but it seems the Reid and Jones were good picks, Lawson was reactionary to get a CB, will see what happens with Webster, and the kicker Freese in the 7th round is worth a shot.

I will say that reading a bit about Reid, he may be the gem rough, as his "weaknesses" seem to be coachable, and overcome by good conditioning.

Not over the moon about this draft, but not exactly "meh" either.

Just a quick shout out to all those who do follow all the college players, and work on their own draft boards. Really like following the discussions you all bring to the threads.

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May 10th, 2014, 11:22 pm
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There were far too many people that hated the SLH pick back when we made it and he turned out to make everyone who hated that pick look like a complete dumbass. That's why, we as fans, are amateur chumps who don't make a sweet living doing this.

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There are also those on here that say ey work for the team and say the team will and/or should pick certain players and many of those players either were passed over by the team multiple times compared to where they were going to be "selected" or in many instances were poor selections. A few examples that stick out were Vinny Curry, there was no way the Lions would pass on Lamar Miller, Janzen Jackson was something like the best S the year he came out now he's in the CFL, the Lions were 99.5% going to go CB a couple of years back etc. etc.. The draft is a crap shoot because a player might just not care enough to be great, they have just excelled against players not as good as them in college, the team and scheme they go to just doesn't fit their skill set, and any other of unmeasurable factors. As far as being a scout and getting paid I have met three of them personally and known two guys that were in line to get scouting positions and they all said the same thing that at the end of the day it came down to who you know more than what you know when getting a scouting job.


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