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Post I was Detriot's GM in this 4 Round Mock.
First, let me say I'm a NY Jet fan....but have always liked the Lions since watching them every Turkey day for many years. Lions are my favorite NFC Team ......a hate the Pack and Bears.

This draft took place on a Jag's Site and had a lot of crazy trades, I didn't make any trades. Remember this draft took place before FA and it was over 2 weeks ago.

Heath has seemed to drop of late, but glad I got him, since Alex Smith, who I love, was selected before my second rd pick. I liked getting Shazor in Rd 2 , a definite need. My favorite pick was the 3rd Rd, Marcus Johnson. Not only can Marcus play G & OT, IMO he was a mid second rd value. O-Line is a must for the Lions and Marcus Johnson could step right in. Alfred Fincher was a little reach in Rd 4.....But believe me, he's a terrific linebacker who can play inside or out and a great special team player. Fincher reminds me of a poor man's Vilma on my beloved Jets.

The draft was suppose to go 7 rounds but it was never completed. No 5th rd pick for the Lions, but was looking for a wideout in rd a Craig Bragg if he fell and maybe some D-line help in Rd 7.

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Btw....nice site!

1 1 49s QB Aaron Rodgers
2 2 Eagles OLB Derrick Johnson
3 3 Browns QB Alex Smith
4 4 Bears WR Braylon Edwards
5 5 Bucs RB Cadillac Williams
6 6 Vikes S Thomas Davis
7 7 Raiders RB Cedric Benson
8 8 Packers CB Antrel Rolle
9 9 Titans WR Mike Williams
10 10 Lions TE Heath Miller
11 11 Texans CB Pac-Man Jones
12 12 Chargers OLB Shawne Merriman
13 13 Titans DE Marcus Spears
14 14 Panthers RB Ronnie Brown
15 15 Chiefs DE Erasmus James
16 16 Saints CB Justin Miller
17 17 Bengals DT Travis Johnson
18 18 Vikings WR Mark Clayton
19 19 Rams DE David Pollack
20 20 Cowboys CB Carlos Rodgers
21 21 Patriots OT Alex Barron
22 22 Ravens WR Troy Williamson
23 23 Packers DT Shaun Cody
24 24 Jaguars DE Matt Roth
25 25 Falcons OG Elton Brown
26 26 Jets CB Brandon Browner
27 27 Titans OT Khalif Barnes
28 28 Charges WR Roddy White
29 29 Colts CB Marlin Jackson
30 30 Steelers CB Bryant McFadden
31 31 Broncos ILB Channing Crowder
32 32 Seahawks DE Dan Cody
Round 2
1 33 49s DT Anttaj Hawthorne
2 34 Browns OT Jamaal Brown
3 35 Texans OG David Baas
4 36 Bucs WR Fred Gibson
5 37 Skins DE Justin Tuck
6 38 Raiders OLB Rian Wallace
7 39 Bears TE Alex Smith
8 40 Saints OLB Darryl Blackstock
9 41 Lions SS Ernest Shazor
10 42 Titans OLB Kevin Burnett
11 43 Giants OT Adam Terry
12 44 Packers DE Bill Swancutt
13 45 Panthers OLB Demarcus Ware
14 46 Chiefs CB Eric Green
15 47 Titans QB Charlie Frye
16 48 Bengals OG Logan Mankins
17 49 Broncos DE Chris Canty
18 50 Texans TE Kevin Everett
19 51 Packers DE Jason Babineaux
20 52 Jaguars CB Corey Webster
21 53 Vikings DT Mike Patterson
22 54 Patriots WR JR Russell
23 55 Bills OT Chris Colmer
24 56 Falcons FS Brodney Pool
25 57 Jets RB Ciatrick Fason
26 58 Texans NT Luis Castillo
27 59 Rams OT Wesley Britt
28 60 Colts DT CJ Mosley
29 61 Chargers FS Josh Bullucks
30 62 Steelers ILB Odell Thurman
31 63 Cowboys ILB Kirk Morrison
32 64 Vikings K Mike Nugent
Round 3
1 65 49s RB Eric Shelton
2 66 Dolphins OT Michael Munoz
3 67 Browns DE Jovan Haye
4 68 Titans WR Chris Henry
5 69 Raiders WR Reggie Brown
6 70 Rams OLB Michael Boley
7 71 Bucs QB Andrew Walter
8 72 Lions OG Marcus Johnson
9 73 Broncos ILB Ryan Claridge
10 74 Giants OG Chris Kemoeatu
11 75 Cardinals QB Jason Campbell
12 76 Titans CB Fabian Washington
13 77 Texans RB Vernand Morency
14 78 Broncos DT Antonio Bryant
15 79 Panthers WR Jerome Mathis
16 80 Vikings ILB Barrett Ruud
17 81 Rams CB Antonio Perkins
18 82 Saints DT Sione Pouha
19 83 Bengals S Donte Nicholson
20 84 Ravens QB Adrian McPhearson
21 85 Seahawks RB Marion Barber III
22 86 Bills DT Attiyah Ellison
23 87 Packers S James Butler
24 88 Jets WR Larry Brackins
25 89 Cardinals S Oshiomogho Atogwe
26 90 Falcons WR Terrance Murphy
27 91 Bucs DT Jim Davis
28 92 Colts CB Travis Daniels
29 93 Steelers RB TA McLendon
30 94 Texans C Ben Wilkerson
31 95 Patriots OG Evan Mathis

Round 4
1 96 49ers OT Jeremy Parquet
2 97 Browns WR Roscoe Parrish
3 98 Dolphins QB Derrick Anderson
4 99 Raiders ILB Lance Mitchell
5 100 Bears RB JJ Arrington
6 101 Bucs OT Ray Willis
7 102 Titans OT Rob Petitti
8 103 Vikings OG John Drake
9 104 Giants WR Mark Bradley
10 105 Cardinals FB Manuel White
11 106 Titans C Chris Spencer
12 107 Lions ILB Alfred Fincher
13 108 Titans C Jason Brown
14 109 Panthers CB Ronald Bartell
15 110 Chiefs OLB Roger Cooper
16 111 Rams SS Junior Rosegreen
17 112 Saints QB Dan Orlovsky
18 113 Bengals WR Steve Savoy
19 114 Jaguars RB Frank Gore
20 115 Seahawks OG Adam Snyder
21 116 Bills CB Stanley Wilson
22 117 Jaguars TE Joel Dreessen
23 118 Ravens CB Darrent Williams
24 119 Packers TE Adam Bergen
25 120 Broncos NT Darrell Shropshire
26 121 Jets OG CJ Brooks
27 122 Falcons WR Vincent Jackson
28 123 Colts DE George Gause
29 124 Chargers S Jamaal Brimmer
30 125 Steelers TE Garrett Cross
31 126 Eagles FB Paul Jefferson
32 127 Patriots DE Jay Ratliff

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March 5th, 2005, 11:42 am
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So I guess you kind of realized the dilemma that the Lions face at #10... we have to stretch for a need. :wink:

First round... Miller was the right pick. Him or Alex Barron, that's a need you haven't addressed, RT, that isn't mentioned on draft sites. Stockar McDougle is a free agent and currently the Lions have Kelly Butler starting for them, a sixth round pick who was unimpressive.

Second round... Like the Shazor pick, another possibility, probably a better player was Brodney Pool. They are pretty much equal in value. Good selection.

Third round... Would have gone the same direction. No way Johnson should have fallen that far, great pickup.

Fourth round... Didn't like the pick. Fincher is a good player, I like the guy, but it was a round too early. There were 3rd rounders still on the board. Craphonso Thorpe, Kyle Orton, Lofa Tatupu, Adam Snyder (OT), were better choices there.

For the 6th round... Thopre and Orton will likely be gone, same with Tatupu. Someone like DT Ronald Fields or WR Courtney Roby would be nice picks.

Draft notes in general... The Panthers GM got a steal in Ronnie Brown, I think he goes 2nd overall after his combine. DeMarcus Ware was equally a great pick in the 2nd round. Alex Barron was a great pick at #21. Jammal Brown shouldn't have fallen to the second round. Bryant McFadden was a huge stretch. Reggie Brown was a great pick by the Raiders round 3. Anthony Bryand round 3? Barrett Ruud was a nice selection. Some people were just plain idiots in the 3rd round. Sione Pouha, Adrian McPherson, Travis Daniels? Are you kidding me? Who is John Drake? And the 4th round? Cardinals, fullbacks don't go until round 6.

March 5th, 2005, 2:55 pm
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Appreciate your comments.

I really liked Thomas Davis and couldn't believe he went real early and might have been my first pick at #10 if available. Miller may be a little reach at 10, tried to trade down into the late Teens area while I was on the clock and had no takers. In hindsight, Miller was the right choice, cause Alex Smith was gone in the 2nd. Kevin Everett(at Lions 2nd rd pick) or Joel Dressen would be reaches in Rd 2. Some scouts feel Alex Smith may rise into late Rd 1.

If the Lions can trade down 10 spots or so and pick -up an extra 3rd round pick and get Heath Miller or Jammal Brown that would be the best scenario.

March 5th, 2005, 4:07 pm
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You my friend I like. You aren't a Lions fan, but I'm impressed with your knowledge of our situation.

I haven't studied my prospects deep into the later rounds so I can't say much except for a few I like down there.

Me, I hate reaching more than anything else. So ideally we trade down. I'm pretty set on the first order of business is searching for a decent trade down.

The only players I would touch at 10 are Derrick Johnson, Antrel Rolle, Erasmus James and Shawne Merriman. So reaching is a definite possiblity. But I would rather draft the best available player as long as we can stick him on the field. (Meaning no RB or QB in rd 1)

I feel like the TE position is a bubble need/luxury. So it isn't absolutely necessary to use a pick on a TE. Definitely not Heath Miller whose stock is dropping like a rock since we won't even be able to get a single measurable from him before the draft.

Someone who has surfaced post-combine is Matt Jones (I don't think I saw him in your draft). When you look at the success of basketball TE's like Tony Gonzales and Antonio Gates, I would use as high as a 4th round pick on Matt if he's their. If he doesn't work out as a TE, he can play WR or his college position QB. He's just a freak athelete.

Good job though, and let us know if you plan to do another mock, and we'd be glad to help you.


March 5th, 2005, 6:32 pm
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